Re: [CR] Asking Manufacturers to remanufacture older sought

(Example: Production Builders)

Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:37:08 -0800 (PST)
From: "Ted E. Baer" <wickedsky@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR] Asking Manufacturers to remanufacture older sought
To: gpvb1@comcast.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <111720041510.12589.419B69F00002D2020000312D2205886360CE0D909F09@comcast.net>


Maybe someone could provide the CR List with a list of suppliers/shops who stock and sell NOS "world logo" hoods along with the corresponding prices?

I would gladly pay $100.00+ for a set of the old Campagnolo world logo hoods before resorting to Modolos.

You want to hear something really sad? I'm sitting here looking at page 30 of the 1977/78 Palo Alto Bicycles Catalog and Campagnolo Brake Lever Gum Hood Replacements are only $3.50 each! And if that isn't bad enough, I see on the next page that the first generation Campagnolo Super Record rear derailleur is only $50.00! Yes, good parts do hold their value.

Ted Baer
Palo Alto, CA


--- gpvb1@comcast.net wrote:


> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:16:45 -0500
> From: "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@starpower.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Asking Manufacturers to
> remanufacture older sought after bicycle comp...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bainbridge" <gotfleas@earthlink.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR] Asking Manufactures to
> remanufacture older sought
> afterbicyc le comp...
>
> If folks in this group are serous about making
> hoods, an appropriate mold
> would cost roughly $2500-$3500 and the cost of the
> hoods themselves pretty
> affordable.
>
>
> WOW!
>
> I don't want to carry this topic along any further,
> but this quote is
> similar to what I got from US sources for my Raleigh
> grips. Simply absurd.
>
> The Lee-Healey Co. Ltd. in England (which is famous
> in the cycling world as
> the old Britannia brand of tyres and grips etc)
> charged me £400 (now about
> $750) for the mold for my grips. I suspect they
> would charge the same for
> hoods. Of course you need to add in shipping from
> the UK. But the US sources
> I found were either dismissive of such a small scale
> project or quoted this
> ridiculous $2500 mold cost which is being dismissive
> but helpful at the
> same time!
>
> If anyone IS serious about this, I'd be happy to
> supply the e-mail address
> and contact person at Lee-Healey. They are brilliant
> to work with by the
> way.
>
> Peter Kohler
> Washington DC USA
>
>
> Grips are not gum brake lever hoods! The hood's
> shape is *much* more complex. The raw materials are
> different. Don't assume anything; get a valid quote
> from a supplier that can actually do what you want
> and has a track record of doing it properly.
> A proper, high-volume injection-mold (with inserts
> for the logos) for gum brake hoods will cost
> $3000-9000, depending on it's size and complexity
> (4-up, 8-up, number of inserts, expected life,
> etc.), and where it's made. The raw material comes
> in 50-pound bags, and has a limited shelf life. You
> gotta make a lot of them in a fairly short time (3-6
> months). You also need equipment (or time on
> equipment) that can run the process, and labor to do
> the setup and processing/QC. There's no such thing
> as a free lunch....
> As we've already discussed, some cheap repop hoods
> are gravity-cast, not injection-molded. Big, big
> difference.
> Greg Parker
> Dexter, Michigan
>
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