Re: Windsor v. Cinelli, was Re: [CR]Centurion Cinelli

(Example: Framebuilders:Dario Pegoretti)

Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 05:11:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Windsor v. Cinelli, was Re: [CR]Centurion Cinelli
To: HM & SS Sachs <sachs@erols.com>, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, gillies@cs.ubc.ca, haxixe@gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <419E9AD3.2090707@erols.com>


You are correct. That's the surest way of telling a Cinelli from a redecaled Windsor. The Windsor uses a larger post, although I can't remember if it's 27.2 or 26.8. Again, I'm not sure Windsor ever had the full-sloping Cinelli fork crown, but there were plenty of clones of those around, or one could even add a genuine Cinelli fork to a redecaled Windsor.

Regards,

Jerry Moos

HM & SS Sachs <sachs@erols.com> wrote: My 73 Cinelli SC takes a 26.2 mm post, because the seat lug area has an internal sleeve. This means that the seat post is only anchored for about 4 cm, or less, before the seat tube is exposed and the seat post no longer is in contact. Duh! Doesn't tend to stick.

To the best of my knowledge, the Windsors, while fine bikes in their own right, never had that seat tube sleeve. Please let me know if I'm wrong, so I don't rush out and buy a Windsor at Cinelli prices.

harvey sachs McLean Va. +++++++++++++++++++ Sure looks like a Windsor Pro. In 1974 Ann Arbor Cyclery had a Windsor Pro and a Cinelli SC hanging adjacent in their shop. Virtually every construction detail and piece on the bike was identical to the Cinelli. The only differences appeared to be the quality of construction, chrome and paint. The Cinelli cost double, or nearly so and was probably worth it.

Kurt Sperry Bellingham WA

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:29:02 -0800 (PST), Donald Gillies wrote:
>> Is there also a "Windsor" cinelli bicycle, all campagnolo / weinmann,
>> that was made in the late 1970's ?? As an existence proof, here is a
>> rusted one that didn't sell (yet) on ebay :
>>
>> < http://ebay.com/<blah>
>>
>> made in Mexico and The decal says columbis tubing with Campy dropouts,
>> molteni orange, but no Cinelli bottom bracket, and Patent 72 rear
>> nuovo record derailleur.
>>
>> - Don Gillies
>> San Diego, CA