Re: [CR]Re: Cinellis hecho en mexico

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From: "Duane Kennard" <d.kennard@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Cinellis hecho en mexico
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:05:01 -0800
To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, alan <worthy2@earthlink.net>


I've also seen a Windsor Pro with a fully sloping fork crown... In fact, I owned one. Here's a picture of that frame: http://www.duane.kennard.com/windsor.jpg Thing is though, the fork had probably been swapped out with one from an earlier Raleigh Pro, and painted a similar, but not quite matching silver. Someone wanted it to look more like a Cinelli, I guess.

I've never seen a production Windsor Pro with the sloping crown, but then I've only seen a couple dozen Windsor Pros, including lots of new ones sold by Ralph Carnevale around '75-'77. I've had a total of 4 now, and still have 2 (and still wanting a perfect one..).

Cheers,

Duane Kennard Los Angeles, USA

On Nov 20, 2004, at 10:06 PM, alan wrote:
>>
>> If memory serves, the Windsor Pro I mentioned seeing in Ann Arbor
>> Cyclery had a Cinelli or Cinelli-type full sloping crown.
>>
>> Kurt Sperry
>> Bellingham WA
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>>
>> Kurt, your memory may be perfectly accurate. New info is coming in
>> continually surrounding the mystery of Acer-Mex Cinelli clones, and I
>> just got a posting today including a pic of what may have been a
>> "house brand" bike called Raysport. Here's a link that I hope works:
>> http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=19396 This
>> clearly shows a very Cinelli-like fully sloping chromed fork crown,
>> and a couple oddities like Reynolds 531 and vertical Campy dropouts!
>> This poster says he has seen another similar Mexican product, same
>> features, but decalled "Fraysee". So a full sloping crown Windsor Pro
>> is definitely possible, tho it would be a more rare one and probably
>> a later production (say post '74). Thanks for your posting.
>>
> Alan Goldsworthy
> San Francisco, CA