Re: [CR]High/ Large Flange Hubs

(Example: Production Builders:Peugeot:PY-10)

From: "Stephen Barner" <steve@sburl.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]High/ Large Flange Hubs
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 22:44:57 -0500


A couple other points about large-flange hubs are that the spokes of a 4-cross wheel will pass over the heads of the adjacent spokes at the flange on a small-flange hub, while they will not do so on a large-flange. Also, a large-flange hub has the spoke holes farther apart, which helps to resist flange breakage. I've seen small-flange hubs with two or three adjacent holes pulled out through a broken flange, but never on a large-flange Campy hub. I've seen broken flanges on the large-flange models, but it seemed to have been more from impact to the flange than spoke tension. Since 4x wheels were poular among tourists in the '70s, we typically suggested large-flange hubs for this use. There was a sense that 4x wheels were stronger and absorbed more shock as the spokes were longer. Oddly, when you look at the pattern, the 4x wheel spoke pulls more tangentially from the hub, likely resulting in a stiffer wheel, if anything.

I tend to side with those who say that flange size and spoking patterns do not significantly affect ride when compared with other factors, like the tires.

Steve Barner, Bolton, Vermont


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> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 22:13:50 -0000

\r?\n> From: "Doug Smith" <doug@kingsweir.plus.com>

\r?\n> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

\r?\n> Subject: [CR]High/ Large Flange Hubs

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Following all the lastest interesting thread on list I am surprised no =

\r?\n> comments from UK members have'nt been forthcoming. I have always =

\r?\n> favoured these hubs throughout the years . I have always found them far =

\r?\n> superior to the small ones both for their looks and quality .I certainly =

\r?\n> would not be able to to tell the difference between the two types whilst =

\r?\n> riding if put to the test I doubt if there is any.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Many comments have been centered on the benefits of using these hubs for =

\r?\n> the racing side of our sport , here they have always been equally =

\r?\n> popular with touring club cyclists as well .They do to take the all wear =

\r?\n> and tear in all types of uses whether on track or road. The only small =

\r?\n> fault I have found when building up a wheel with the large flange it =

\r?\n> takes time for the spokes to bed in from newly built , something not so =

\r?\n> noticeable in their smaller counterparts.Another point worth considering =

\r?\n> is the large flange is a great advantage when building into a 27" rim =

\r?\n> the shorter spokes making it more rigid than with the small type hub.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Where are all the high flange hubs ? They appear to be plentiful here in =

\r?\n> the UK , my own collection of machines have a varied selection of these =

\r?\n> . My preferences being the British all steel solid spindle Brampton and =

\r?\n> Resilion others Airlite and Bayliss Whiley along with Continental steel =

\r?\n> barrel FB , of the alloy makes of Normandy, early Shimano and not a =

\r?\n> Campag or quick release hub in sight !

\r?\n> Doug Smith

\r?\n> North Dorset

\r?\n> England

\r?\n> UK