Re: [CR]Cinelli - Windsor

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:34:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli - Windsor
To: themaaslands@comcast.net, Classic Rendezvous <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <112220041615.17362.41A210A100061268000043D222007511509C0B020E049C0E0E030A089B@comcast.net>


Not reading between the lines at all. Maybe Italian executives are less legalistic than American ones, but the fact that a former employee goes to work for another company does not in any legal way constitute a tie between the companies. At the point an employee resigns, he is no longer connected to his former firm and his employment by another firm does not constitute a connection between the companies. If Andrea now says that even that did not occur, one must assume he would know, but his earlier statement did not say that. To infer that it did would have been "reading between the lines".

Regards,

Jerry Moos Houston, TX

themaaslands@comcast.net wrote: In reply to the comment relating to Andrea Cinelli's unequivocal statement about there not being any ties between Cinelli and Windsor: "Of course he does not say that no former Cinelli employees were involved with Windsor. "

Please reread what Andrea wrote: "Non ci sono mai stati legami (almeno fino al 1985) tra la Cinelli e la Windsor del Messico." and my translation: "There have not been any ties between (at least until 1985) Windsor and Cinelli." This means no ties, whether by family, by any former employees or by direct trade. I just spoke to Andrea by phone to confirm this. He also stated that any possible purchase and use of Cinelli parts would have taken place through an independant distributor as he was personally involved in the international sales of Cinelli and knew all the customers (he still is active in international sales of bicycles and bicycle components to this day!) This tendency to read between the lines and to hypothesize about possibilities instead of verifying the truth with reliable sources is the whole reason why so much information gets lost.

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Steven Maasland
Moorestown, NJ