Yowza Ricardo, Either you practice New Age Syncronicity or you've hacked into my hard drive and I therefore need to get the GeekSquad over here pronto. I liked your query and I'll add it to my slow Masi simmer I've been a brewin' here for some time... Thanks, Joe Starck, Madison, Wisconsin
--- "richardsachs@juno.com" <richardsachs@juno.com>
wrote:
>
> joe-issimo
> okay - good to read your posts and see you here
> again. i have one burning question that once
> and for all i gots ta ax and get a smidgeon of
> an answer, if not an essay:
> why are these masis? i mean this with all the love
> and respect i can muster. but - and i ask this as
> both
> a masi-o-phile as well as a framebuilder - were
> these masis because they were built while you/others
> worked for a firm that owned the rights to the name?
> because you had masi parts and designs and were
> told to follow the blueprints? were you allowed any
> slack in deviating from geometrys? could you, as a
> craftsman, choose one file type rather than another
> to create the metalwork to suit your personal
> vision?
> just so you know - i'm cool with the variations that
> existed and the different forks in road that the
> name
> and frames took through the years. i have a personal
> connection to frames made earlier, and italian ones
> at
> that, due to emotional reasons. i have no doubt that
> your frames had quality that could rival anyone's
> from that period...i just wrestle with the masi-ness
> of it all when it was so many years and generations
> removed from the vigorelli as well as from the
> original
> calmasi work force and mission statement.
> my interest is academic. i hope you'll reply and
> also
> tweak your answers any way you see fit so as to
> expalin
> the mindset of folks (you. others, as well...) that
> "made" masis in the middle-late 80s.
> e-RICHIE
> chester, ct
>
> -- Joe Starck <josephbstarck@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here's some unsolicited clarification for five Masi
> owners listed on CR's Masi Timeline:
>
> John Jorgensen's M55-7020, estimated to be made in
> 1986 was made by me in 1987.
>
> Kevin Kruger's M58-4025 estimated to be made in 1983
> by Dave Tesch was made in 1984 by Rob Roberson.
>
> Jolie Ramage's M57-4191 estimated to be made by Dave
> Tesch was made by me in 1984.
>
> Pat Moffat's SMC62-C835 estimated to be made in 1988
> surely was made in 1983, eh?! I was in my prime at
> Masi by 1988, and never stamped any letter other
> than
> an "M" in a bottom bracket in 1988 or in any bottom
> bracket in the thousand or so frames I made between
> January of 1984 and June of 1990.
>
> Jack Gabus's M56-S4216 GC estimated to be made in
> Carlsbad in 1994 is a mystery to me. Carlsbad in
> 1994?
> Maybe the "S" denotes "serial number. Less the "S"
> it
> would have been made by me in 1984. By 1994 I was
> making frames for Bill Holland, and I don't even
> think
> any GCs were made in the U.S. during that year.
> Maybe
> it's a '94 Mondonico or Billato made frame. I wonder
> if Jack has pics of it. Maybe I slipped an "S" on it
> to get a rise out of the guy signing my paychecks.
> Joe Starck,
> Madison,
> Wisconsin
>
>
>
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