Sachsissimo, Yes, another one of the dichotomies of life. buona notte, Giovanni Pergolizzi Brooklyn, Nuovo York
e-RICHIE wrote: " snipped: Correct restoration on a shoestring is often an equation that needs more time to complete. And most people are simply to anxious to get a job done. The price of research is often what is not willing to be paid."(J.P.)
"i like your elitist attitude. i share it in principle. but not everyone cares as much as everyone else. for that one guy who's insensitive to the heavy imron on his repainted 71 masi: imperfection is perfection..."(R.S.)
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> -- "John Pergolizzi" <jtperry1@verizon.net> wrote:
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>> E.R.
>> I think that one's aim and intent is what counts.
>> To stroke ones ego by pleasing ones own eye, with no other
>> consideration, is verboten to me be cause of the intrinsic loss of
>> history.
>> All "date correct" is not necessary certainly unless it was "Museum
>> quality" of a one and only, but if it's sky blue pink that I like , do I
>> have to put it on a "still not absolutely necessary to repaint" frame?
>> If it's a question of economics, and the bike needs it, certainly one
>> can still do the right thing; i.e. original available color, thickness
>> etc.,
>> but with a limited pocket book. Theirs is the more difficult endeavor.
>> Preservation, and how and when to go about it, is a much more
>> difficult
>> question.
>> Correct restoration on a shoestring is often an equation that needs
>> more
>> time to complete. And most people are simply to anxious to get a job
>> done.
>> The price of research is often what is not willing to be paid.
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>> John T. Pergolizzi
>> Broklyn, New York
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>>> snipped:
>>> "I guess I'm more all or nothing. Like do
>>> your Masi style thing or don't bother."
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>>> that's a tough one.
>>> i spent 4 years and countless jacksons.
>>> you're suggesting that investing less
>>> makes a resto not worthwhile? i had the
>>> time and money; someone else may simply
>>> have a different sensibilty towards what
>>> "constitutes" the task. their's is a less
>>> worthy endeavor? did i misunderstand you?
>>> e-RICHIE
>>> chester, ct
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>>> -- "John Pergolizzi" <jtperry1@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> e-RICHIE wrote:
>>> "jp-issimo,
>>> so you're anti-restoration?"
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>>> Sig. Richissimo,
>>> I guess I'm more all or nothing.
>>> Like do your Masi style thing or don't bother.
>>> But iffin she ain't "original", then really take her out and ride her
>>> cause
>>> you can always "restore" her again.
>>> One of the first Ferrari's I drove belongs to a Doctor out in Long
>>> Island and was I ever thrilled when he told me to take the wheel! But
>>> He
>>> said that before he had her restored, he drove her all the time, and
>>> afterwards "she was made of glass".
>>> I was in an apartment in Manhattan as a young just out of college
>>> handyman doing some work, and hanging from the ceiling is a Calder
>>> mobile.
>>> I knew what it was, but it really was nothing special; just hanging
>>> there
>>> all limp and whatnot! So I blew on her! And she came to life! Really
>>> neat!
>>> Duchamps etc., = movement. Bikes not getting ridden, that is what
>>> I'm
>>> against.
>>> John T.Pergolizzi
>>> Brooklyn, NewYork
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>>>
>>>>> Tom Sanders wrote:
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>>>>> "...bike was a shining, gleaming, non rusty bit of eye dazzle with a
>>>>> reasonably good paint job.
>>>>> I think if it does not please your eye, it should be made to do so.
>>>>> It's
>>>>> yours."
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's where I disagree: she's not "yours", she belongs to history
>>>>> and
>>>>> posterity.
>>>>> This issue has been hashed out ad nauseum. Western outlook has been
>>>>> to
>>>>> leave your mark (graffiti by English explorers on the Temple of Dendur
>>>>> at
>>>>> The Metropolitan Museum), to "improve" (the repaint of the George
>>>>> Mount
>>>>> Olympic bike). Hey, unless she is almost a bucket of rust, you can
>>>>> always
>>>>> restore her. Why now? Just to make you happy? And if she isn't the
>>>>> only
>>>>> one
>>>>> on the planet left, well ride her for J.H.C's sake. Ride her into the
>>>>> ground. And if she is the last one on Earth, then what the heck are
>>>>> you
>>>>> doing taking away any originality (Peter N. on a last of a Hetchin's
>>>>> line).
>>>>> "Yea, but I want her to look nice". It's like asking your wife to get
>>>>> plastic surgery or you'll leave her for your girlfriend.
>>>>> Guy's ,when you have too much time on your hands, go paint your
>>>>> tools.
>>>>> A few years ago , the gods were good enough to help land in my lap
>>>>> a
>>>>> Peter Weigle bike. Fantastic quality paint job BUT UGLY!!! At least
>>>>> to
>>>>> my
>>>>> eyes. Magenta purple/Gumby green/white lugs with black in the heart
>>>>> cutouts/
>>>>> yellow lettering....UGGGGHHHHHHH!
>>>>> So I figured I'd get her chromed. After all she fit and was
>>>>> flawless.
>>>>> But I called Peter first and we discovered she was in fact a show bike
>>>>> whose
>>>>> photos appeared in Playboy magazine with Terry Weigle (no relation)
>>>>> and
>>>>> then
>>>>> in Bicycling. The bike originally had Campagnolo
>>>>> "prototype"C-Record!!!!!!
>>>>> Rare and very special! This is The Playboy Wiegle Bike.
>>>>> Well, the bike is now with a very caring owner, The Famous Lou
>>>>> Deeter.
>>>>> I didn't do what I wanted. I did what the bike deserved. Help her
>>>>> show
>>>>> her
>>>>> history. Not "please my eye".
>>>>> This is just my humble opinion and has served me well for ohhhhh
>>>>> the
>>>>> last 15 years or so. Problem is it took me the first 15 years to
>>>>> learn.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerly,
>>>>> JohnT.Pergolizzi
>>>>> Brooklyn, New York
>>>>> where it rained almost all day so I have too much energy for this time
>>>>> of
>>>>> night