Actually, the old logo Cinelli stems take a 7mm allen wrench as well. One of the good things about the Campy NR/SR stuff was that with a Campy 5mm allen wrench and a Campy T-wrench, you could adjust just about any fastener except the crank bolts and the stem. But Campy didn't make the stems, so they don't loose points for that. I have to admit, French fasteners were not nearly as consistent. The Campy fastener consistency kind of fell apart in the C-Record era, though.
Jerry Moos Houston, TX
kim klakow <Akimbo71@gmx.net> wrote: ... and I just filed down a 4mm allen key to fit. But as you correctly noticed, Tom, both items are from the same era (off-topic, dare I say) and before that everything is aok. And what about the 7mm french stem allen bolt. I think the french are the worst at mix´n´match. you will find bolts sizes ranging from 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (if you´ve got a bolted stem), 13, 14 (if you´ve got one of those stupid saddle clamps) to 15; and a mix of allen key bolts on top of that. If you´re really lucky you´ve got 6mm drop-out adjusters as well!
greets, Kim "toolbag as heavy as the rest of the bike" klakow berlin, germany
> i always used a 7mm on those crank bolts.
> and the brakes were sold WITH a 3.5mm wrench in the box.
> chester, ct
> -- "Tom Sanders" wrote:
> I long ago gave up wondering about the logic of mixing so many kinds of
> threads and types of measurements (English threads, metric and inch
> increments, Italian threads, etc) all on the same bicycle, but the
> that has me really stumped is this.
> Why does Campagnolo use such weird size openings on some of their bolt
> heads...probably other places, too. I mean c'mon...3.5mm in the Delta
> brakes? 6.5mm on the bolts holding the cranks onto the BB axel on C
> cranks? They must have known that not very many folks would possess such
> strange size tools. What could have been their logic behind this?
> Obviously they could have made or specified them any way they wanted.
> am I missing about all this? Was this an effort to keep amateurs from
> working on them?
> Tom Sanders
> Lansing, Mi
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