In a message dated 12/2/04 8:30:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> Teledyne frames also came with Shimano oversize brake cable clamps and an
> oversize Shimano cable guide (I think) so that started people down a Shimano
> Dura-Ace path.
Yes on the brake cable clamps, but the cable guide fits the swaged-down part of the frame so anything will fit. I have Campy on mine. I remember seeing DA equipped Teledynes but I have bought two in the last two years and both came with their original Campy. Funny story about the first one. It came with a Brooks Pro saddle, and 36 hole Super Champion Mod 58s with 14 ga spokes. Weighed 25 lbs!