Re: [CR]french mystery bike - help

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 21:37:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Fred Rafael Rednor <>
Subject: Re: [CR]french mystery bike - help
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Kim, I would not rule out that this is a French bicycle! It looks very much like a road version of my LeJeune track bike, which I believe was the output of some contract builder in Saint Etienne. Note the similar lug and seatstay tretment: Also, for me the front Huret dropouts and Simplex shifter bosses would indicate a French bicycle. The same goes for that cable stop "widget" at the rear dropout. Then again, without any markings, who can say? One thing I would add is that many decent quality French bikes used adhesive stickers rather than decals, so the lack of markings under the second layer of paint might also hint to French origins. I suppsoe this is another puzzle to be solved when the messiah comes. Don't hold your breath... Best regards, Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia
> Hmm, French threading but Gipiemme rear DOs and more "Italian
> style" long point lugs. Makes you wonder if maybe this
> isn't French at all, but some other nation that used French
> thread. That would probably be Belgium, Spain or
> Switzerland. This is not Zeus or Razesa, so Spain is
> unlikely, and most of the Swiss bikes used fancy Nervex lugs.
> the least "French" of the French bikes was probably Bertin,
> (I think Andre himself may have been Belgian born), and I've
> seen lower end Bertins marked as made in Belgium. But that
> semi-wraparound seat stay doesn't match anything I've ever
> seen on a Bertin. So maybe this is Belgian, Flandria maybe?
> Regards,
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
> kim klakow <> wrote:
> Howdy Y´all,
> anybody have an idea what this might be? It used to be gold
> until it got
> this red paintjob. the fork was gold too and then got it all
> scraped off.
> Threading is french, rear drop-outs are Gipiemme, front
> Huret. nicely
> wrapped stays. Might these be a give-away. Simple shifter
> braze-on.
> I don´t think it is top of the line tubing, but not all bad.
> To aid you francophiles, ....
> Kim "Marianne" Klakow
> Berlin, East France
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