[CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 24, Issue 82


Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré

From: "Stephen Cannavale" <scan@nac.net>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:26:11 -0800
Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 24, Issue 82


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> 1. Campagnolo parts on German ebay
> 2. SR bike frame information (Nathan L. Tyson)
> 3. Re: Witcomb Cycles (richardsachs@juno.com)
> 4. Re: Yo! (Pete Geurds)
> 5. Re: Yo! (Matteo Brandi)
> 6. RE: Zeus graphics NOW stickers. (Bingham, Wayne R.)
> 7. Re: Zeus graphics NOW stickers. (John Thompson)
> 8. Re: Re: eChipping bikes (John Thompson)
> 9. Re: Scammers are out there. Be carefull !! -- stolen bike
> question (John Thompson)
> 10. The patron Saint has appeared (brianbaylis@juno.com)
> 11. NOW scanning misc. stickers.
> 12. Re: nos GIOS f/f on ebay (John Thompson)
> 13. HURET Huge Shifter Parts/Hardware Lot NOS Item number: 7121030362
> (charles nighbor)
> 14. Re: The patron Saint has appeared (Michael D. Schmidt)
> 15. CLASSIC RALEIGH PROFESSIONAL ROAD BIKE CAMPAGNOLO NR
> (charles nighbor)
> 16. Grandis 57cm Track Bike Pista Bicycle Item number: 7121430268
> (charles nighbor)
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> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:22:35 +0000
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> Subject: [CR]Campagnolo parts on German ebay
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> http://tinyurl.com/69pca
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> http://search.ebay.de/_Radsport_W0QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR7QQsacategoryZ9192QQsa ssZtorte74QQsatitleZQQsofindtypeZ15QQsorecordsperpageZ50QQsorecordsperpageZ5 0QQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1QQsotrtypeZ1QQsotrvalueZ1
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> A former shop owner in Germany has posted a large number of components for sale on German ebay at buy it now prices, including:
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> Campagnolo C-record rear hubs, athena derailleur, gran sport front derailleur, Chorus seatpost, Record chainrings, headsets and headset parts, track and road axles, BB axles, pedal spindles, Edco BB, a number of NOS frames... plus plus plus.
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> The seller is willing to ship to the US and accepts Paypal.
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>
> --
> Steven Maasland
> Moorestown, NJ
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> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 00:38:57 -0500
> From: "Nathan L. Tyson" <ntyson@andrew.cmu.edu>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]SR bike frame information
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> Hello Fellows,
> There seems to be some serious ebay/biketheft paranoia on this
> maillist...Well, I assure you that I am not one of those scammers, I am
> just a poor grad student who has an interest (and some investment) in this
> sport. I am currently 'restoring' a 1977 vintage steel 'spaceframe design'
> SR, for my girlfriend, as a Valentine's Day surprise (I plan ahead!). It
> measures 19 and a half inches (top of seat tube to middle of bottom
> bracket). She currently walks a half hour every morning to school, which
> converts to a leisurely 7 minutes on a bike, and so this sweet little SR
> will be just the ticket for her. For those interested, I will be painting
> it Krylon Pearlescent Pink, over grey automotive primer, and I will put a
> clearcoat over the pink. It should look pretty sweet with black and silver
> components (original I think), new fenders (a must for a commuter bike),
> and some elbow grease. I got a black leather SanMarco saddle and am
> contemplating new tires...the old ones might be original (EEK!). Advice,
> suggestions, info on brand or model...ALL OF THESE ARE WELCOME! See the
> frame in its currently stripped version at
> <http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/78e0bfec/bc/Pictures/Frame1.jpg?bfyudvBB9TYhT89 8>
> Happy Holidays to all,
> Cheers,
> Nate
> PS - Suggest Chet Baker, Roy Brown, Oscar Peterson, Harry Connick Jr. for
> romantic holiday listening...always works for me!
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> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:02:08 GMT
> From: "richardsachs@juno.com" <richardsachs@juno.com>
> To: OROBOYZ@aol.com
> Cc: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Cc: gpcarter@btinternet.com
> Subject: Re: [CR]Witcomb Cycles
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> snipped:
> "Richard or ? can correct me if I am
> wrong on the above but I bet they agree..."
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> i agree.
> attaboy.
> e-RICHIE
> chester, ct
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> -- OROBOYZ@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 12/13/2004 1:16:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net writes:
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> << Would Richie or Peter Weigle care to comment as to whether it would be
> possible, given detailed photos, to tell which of them, if either, built a CT
> Witcomb frame? Or would it have been a case of both, plus perhaps Chris Chance,
> each doing part of the work on a single frame? >>
>
> I would be REALLY surprised if any of these gents would lay claim to having
> been the primary builder of any of these bikes...
>
> First, almost never does one guy do all the work on a frame in mini factory
> workshops.. One person might do forks, another might prep the frames, set up
> jigs or whatever, another might braze the main triangle, another do
> finish-filing & cleaning up prior to paint, etc., etc. So one person may not want to say
> he "made" a particular frame and potentially be blamed for one of the other
> guy' possible slackness!
>
> Secondly, that was 30 + years ago and all these guys have majorly refined and
> improved thier skills and procedures, so those old bikes might be somewhat
> "crude" when viewed today. Who wants to recieve credit for a craft piece they
> did "in Junior High School?" Even if they did do the majority of the work on a
> particular frame, they might wince when they looked at the execution, either
> aesthetically or structurally.
>
> Richard or ? can correct me if I am wrong on the above but I bet they agree...
> Cheers
> Dale
>
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, North Carolina