Re: [CR] Accles & Pollock was help with a Hobbs (Duncan Granger)

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From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
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Subject: Re: [CR] Accles & Pollock was help with a Hobbs (Duncan Granger)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 21:15:25 -0800
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Peter: Thanks for some of the detective work on the tubing co's. I thought one of the prewar Paramount cat. descriptions listed both Reynolds & Accles & Pollock. Probably the best way to preserve decals would be to put a little clear over the decal to stabalize it. The British saga of prewar bike power was very impressive. Biggest in the world I'm sure, because of the Empire. We were told by the factory people that Raleigh and the T.I. group could put a bike together from raw materials out of the ground, onto railcars, into ship holds, to steel, aluminium, and rubber making plants, to the factories, make the various pieces and parts and ship the finished product around the world. Plus the factories making the traditional 28"wheel rod brake bike in places like India and Africa.and then the China market too. That bike is probably the most used bike anywhere anytime numbering in the 100's of millions! It was referred to as the camel of 1900's. Back in the mid eighties my wife and I spent some time in Siberia and Central Asia on vacation . These iron dromedaries were all over transporting anything that would fit. Seems to me the Vietnamese did quite a bit of transport thru the jungle on their two wheel beasts of burdens, too. Fascinating, these oulde bikes and the part they played in history. Ted Ernst Palos Verdes Estates, Ca


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From: kohl57@starpower.net
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<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [CR] Accles & Pollock was help with a Hobbs (Duncan Granger)

Original Message: ----------------- From: sam lingo frameteam2003@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 09:46:44 -0800 (PST) To: dgranger@comcast.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]help with a Hobbs (Duncan Granger)

A&P history: http://www.accles.co.uk/history.asp

sam lingo,pleasanton tx

Gosh, is there is nothing that's not explained on the internet?

This is fascinating but the time-line doesn't even mention cycle tubing or when they phased it out. I am certain Hilary Stone explained all this, quite possibly in one of his erudite eBay listings. Someone should get some web space together just to store all of his splendid pix and information.

It's telling that our friends at Tube Investments apparently owned BOTH Reynolds and Accles & Pollock so they most likely eventually settled on which one should get the cycle tubing trade.

The biggest question is: did Accles & Pollock seat tube transfers self-destruct like Reynolds ones do? That would be my major criteria for choosing one over the other.

Peter Kohler Washington, DC USA

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