Re: [CR]Wool Gallery Album-1950 Claude Butler Allrounder and catalogue

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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 03:51:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Wool Gallery Album-1950 Claude Butler Allrounder and catalogue
To: marc jones <cantiflex1@yahoo.com>, Peter Naiman <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com>, "richardsachs@juno.com" <richardsachs@juno.com>
In-Reply-To: <20041201050403.77920.qmail@web52506.mail.yahoo.com>
cc: classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Yes, that's the only remaining uncertainty. My bike, and it seems yours as well, match the lug/sleeve pattern of the 1952 and 1953 (and 1956) Allrounder, but it's possible that pattern was used on the Avant Coureur in 1949 and 1950. This is reinforced by some of the text in the 1953 catalog that another list member faxed me a couple of months ago. It hypes the virtues of bilaminate construction, then says these are "Now available in the Allrounder as well." or words to that effect. We thought at the time that meant that the Allrounder only got bilaminate construction in 1953, but based on the current thread, that is not correct. Perhaps it meant that the Allrounder went to Avant Coureur-style "full laminations" in 1953. What year is Chuck's catalog you refer to?

Regards,

Jerry Moos Houston, TX

marc jones <cantiflex1@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi, I have a Claude Butler frame just like the one in the picture, mine is a 49. I got a CB catalog from Chuck Schmidt and it shows the allrounder having the half laminations and the Avant Coureur having the full laminations like mine and Jerry's. So I'm unsure which model I have. This is also my first posting I also have a 1950 Bates Vegrandis and a 1973 Raleigh International. I worked in the bike buisness from 1975 to 1988 as a mechanic, store manager and store owner. Marc Jones Mishawaka, Indiana 46544

Peter Naiman wrote: Sorry, Rich. The link to the Wool Jersey Gallery Claude Butler album is below.

http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/1950-Claude-Butler

Regards, Peter Naiman Shorewood, WI

--- "richardsachs@juno.com" wrote:
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> a link would help!
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> -- Peter Naiman wrote:
> I've added a photo album of Jerry's CB Allrounder
> with
> scanned in copies of a 1952 CB catalogue, and two
> ads
> from a 1948 Cycling Magazine. Once you get into the
> album, to get a screen size look at the jpg, click
> once on the photo with your computer mouse. The
> Catalogue and ads are not easy to read, unless you
> stare a bit, but were scanned in at a high
> resolution.
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> Enjoy !!
> Peter Naiman
> Shorewood, WI
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> AvenueShorewood, WI 53211-1418
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