Re: [CR]What marquee is the diamond found on?

Example: Production Builders:Tonard

Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:00:28 -0800 (PST)
From: "Ted E. Baer" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]What marquee is the diamond found on?
To: ternst <>,
In-Reply-To: <01bd01c4eefa$ef9d13a0$0300a8c0@D8XCLL51>

Thanks for the info Ted. Does the brochure show weather or not the Confente has a spade cut out in the BB shell?

It would be cool to see all of the lug "suits" photographed next to each other. I would volunteer to help, but don't own a bicycle in any of the four "hands."

Ted Baer
Palo Alto, CA

--- ternst wrote:

> Hi Everyone: I have a very nice original Confente

\r?\n> six page brochure that

\r?\n> shows spades in his frame lugs. The spade design is

\r?\n> also featured on the

\r?\n> cover.

\r?\n> Ted Ernst

\r?\n> Palos Verdes Estates, CA

\r?\n> ----- Original Message -----

\r?\n> From: "Ted E. Baer" <>

\r?\n> To: <>

\r?\n> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:34 PM

\r?\n> Subject: [CR]What marquee is the diamond found on?



\r?\n> > As you can see by the title of this post, I am in

\r?\n> > "Frame Identification 101."

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > I have two questions:

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Who are the builders who ORIGINALLY used the spade

\r?\n> > shape cut out in their frames -- be it in the lugs

\r?\n> or

\r?\n> > on in the BB shell. I think Eisentraut may have,

\r?\n> but

\r?\n> > there must have been some major marquees before

\r?\n> him in

\r?\n> > Europe who used it.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > We know clubs is Colnago and hearts De Rosa.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > But what about diamonds? Please do not reply

\r?\n> "Diamond

\r?\n> > Back".....................................

\r?\n> > Also, what about the diamonds that have facets

\r?\n> (five

\r?\n> > edges) like Superman's ring? Were those ever used

\r?\n> by

\r?\n> > any builder?

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Ted E. Baer

\r?\n> > Palo Alto, CA