Re: [CR]parts for that Cinelli (was re: gios for sale)


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From: "Dan Christopherson" <danlchris@hotmail.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]parts for that Cinelli (was re: gios for sale)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:11:51 -0800


Thank you Charles Andrews and Steven Maasland, for this (compiled) guide to value for vintage Campy NR. Now, maybe we could get Sheldon Brown to update the Vintage Lightweight Pricing Guide (Wild Guesses of Value for Selected Vintage Lightweights by Michael Kone and Sheldon Brown; 1997) - http://www.sheldonbrown.com/vrbn-a-f.html .

Dan "wiser about used Campy values" Christopherson Lopez Island WA

Steven Maasland wrote:
> Charles suggested the following approximate values for the purchase of various parts needed for building up a theoretical 1971 Cinelli bike. I think that it should be pointed out that Charles is located in a part of the country where high-end vintage bikes are relatively common (as compared to the rest of the country) and Charles is more well-connected than most of us with possible supply sources. I have included my comment about each price that he suggested in CAPS next to his price quotations. I believe these prices to reflect general levels seen in many parts of the country.
>
> Vintage Nuovo Record wheels, w/ QR: $100 or less. I AGREE AND WOULD ADD THAT THIS PRICE USUALLY INCLUDES BOTH FREEWHEEL AND A SET OF VERY WORN TIRES. IF YOU HOWEVER INSIST ON THE PROPER DATE CODES ON THE OUTWARDLY INVISIBLE LOCKNUTS, THE PRICE WILL GO UP.
> Cinelli bars and stem: $40 THIS IS ON THE LOW SIDE IF UNSCRATCHED OLD LOGO BARS ARE CALLED FOR. IF OLD LOGO ONES WITH BOLTED STEM ARE SOUGHT, YOU WOULD NEED TO DOUBLE THIS NUMBER, EVEN MORE IF YOU WANT BARS IN TODAY'S MOST COMMONLY USED WIDER WIDTHS.
> Record seatpost 26.2: $30 FOR THE THEORETICAL 1971 CINELLI, YOU WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND THE CORRECT VINTAGE ONE AT THIS PRICE.
> Used unicanitor saddle: $30 FOR A USED ONE THIS PRICE IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE, THEY CAN OFTEN BE FOUND FOR CONSIDERABLY LESS.
> Universal brakes and levers: $50 OVERALL I AGREE WITH THIS VALUE, YOU CAN PERHAPS EVEN FIND THESE FOR LESS, HOWEVER YOU WOULD NORMALLY NEED TO FIND SOME REPLACEMENT HOODS WITHIN A SHORT TIME.
> Regina corsa chain: $20 OK, SLIGHTLY MORE FOR THE ORO VARIANT.
> Regina freewheel, used: $20 THESE ARE OFTEN INCLUDED WITH THE WHEELSET, SO I WOULD BE TEMPTED TO DELETE THIS COST. ON THE OTHER HAND, SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO PUT A NEW CHAIN ON, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW FREEWHEEL AT THE SAME TIME.
> Campagnolo cranks: $50 ON EBAY, AND IN MY AREA, YOU WILL BE VERY HARD-PRESSED TO GET THESE FOR LESS THAN $60 AND THEN USUALLY WITH HEAVY WEAR TO THE CRANKS, CHAINRINGS OR POTENTIAL DAMAGE. I ALWAYS CALCULATE $100 FOR CRANKS, MORE IF YOU ARE PICKY ABOUT DATE CODE OR CHAINRING COMBINATIONS.
> Campagnolo steel pedals: $40 FOR USERS, THIS PRICE IS CORRECT, FOR VERY CLEAN, UNSCRAPED PEDALS OR ONES WITH STRAP LOOPS ADD MORE.
> Campagnolo NR rear derailleur: $45 THE PRICE IS RIGHT BUT TO FIND THE RIGHT DATE CODE IN TWO WEEKS WOULD NOT BE EASY.
> Campagnolo record front: $30-40 THIS PRICE IS CORRECT.
> Campagnolo shifters: $20 I FEEL THIS PRICE IS GENEROUS, I BELIEVE YOU CAN SAY A MAX. OF $20.
>
> To which you must add not only the BB, but also the headset, tires and other incidentals. All told, I doubt that you could readily equip a frame with anything close to age correct components for an early 70's bike for less than $600.
>
> --
> Steven Maasland
> Moorestown, NJ