[CR]Junior Frejus on Ebay Tonight


Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré

Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:07:11 -0500
From: Joe Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
References: <6b.230e52ce.2d6a7ed7@cs.com>
Subject: [CR]Junior Frejus on Ebay Tonight

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3660912248

Check out the Cinelli bars.

Very nice.

Joe Bender-Zanoni Great Notch, NJ

To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:53 PM Subject: [CR]Chain and freewheel type on a 1972 Italian Masi GC, was: purchase of the day

Brian:

I have an NOS 1972 Verona-built Masi GC that came with an Everest (black, or maybe you could call it brownish) freewheel, and a Sédis chain. This surprised me a bit (the non-Italian chain...). Should I just not mess with it at all, or can I change it to Everest Oro in both cases and still be "Faliero-correct?"

Second question: in your opinion, is there any way to determine if Mario built any of it? This bike is one of the ones that John Barron found a while back....

Thanks,

Greg "closet Masiphile" Parker Anne d'Arbor, Michigan

Brian writ:
> Steven,
>
> Personally, I don't think the Simplex stuff would have come original on that
> bike from Masi. Especially not at that time. In the (very) early days you
> might see Magistroni parts on a track bike, but that's about it from what I've
> seen. Even with the occassional rift between Faliero and a supplier, it
> probably never had anything to do with Campagnolo. The rifts seem to be with
> Regina and Cinelli, and possibly Nisi or Fiamme. Thus the Everest or Sedis chains,
> and 3TTT bar and stems and saddles, along with Martano rims. I suspect
> someone bought the frame with a few parts on it somewhere along the line and put
> the parts they had on hand on the frame. I'm reasonably certain Masi never
> attempted to make a "lower line" or budget priced bike until the 90's or so.
>
> Brian Baylis
> La Mesa, CA
>
> -- themaaslands@comcast.net wrote:
> Given all of the recent discussion about Simplex and Campagnolo, my purchase
> of the day will have a bit of relevance. I bought a Masi Special today that
> Brian has estimated to date from about 1968-69. Well surprise, surprise it is
> equipped not with Campagnolo derailleurs but rather with Simplex. It has
> what appears to be a Simplex Prestige Criterium rear derailleur. I'm not sure
> whether this was by choice of the buyer or by Masi. It could perhaps have been
> a way to offer a cheaper model as the bike also has what appear to be
> Campagnolo Tipo hubs, lesser 3-arm alloy cranks and a traditional style steel
> seatpost and clamp instead of the alloy microadjust ones. It could also have been
> in one the periods when Masi was cut off by the Italian suppliers. This was
> apparently known to happen with Masi as he seemed to often 'overly extend' his
> credit with suppliers. Lastly, it could have been simply because somebody
> thought them to be 'better'. I hope to receive the bike from Italy in time to
> bring it to le cirque.
>
> --
> Steven Maasland
> Moorestown, NJ