In a message dated 2/25/04 10:26:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> Until all the recent discussions about Cinelli stems, I was
> also under the impression that all their steel stems had
> badges. OK - I now realize they didn't, which means that I
> probably saw a fair number of them and didn't realize it.
> So my question is this: did all their stems that lacked the
> badges have markings stamped into them? Or were there also
> steel Cinelli stems that simply devoid of visible markings?
Most of the unbadged steel stems had a logo on the top that said "Cinelli Milano". I expect the majority of the badged stems carried the same logo, under the badge. The exception to this appears to be those that were sent to Schwinn for Paramount production. They were left blank with no logo. Thank goodness they weren't marked "Schwinn Approved"! Stevan Thomas Alameda, CA Biggest, windiest rainstorm in 10 years!