Re: Hacking a Cinelli , was [CR]So Sad part 3.

Example: Humor
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:00:21 -0800 (PST)
From: "dave martinez" <>
Subject: Re: Hacking a Cinelli , was [CR]So Sad part 3.
To: HM & SS Sachs <>
In-Reply-To: <>
cc: CR List <>

Hello All,

Back around '82 or '83, I was trying pry a very cool 50s vintage Cinelli track bike from this guy. He would call me up and tell me that he HAD to sell it because he needed an instant influx of cash for his bottomless pit Ferrari restoration. I'd drive to Mountain View where with a wad of cash in my pocket---ready to make that purchase. He'd tell me that it was painful and how the money from the Cinelli would be used to fix a door on his Ferrari (or something like that). He would wheel the orange track bike out; it was stunning, with glistening steel bars and the deeply engraved brass badge on that very purposeful chrome stem. The hubs were Campag 3 piece with the rear having been modified into a double sided hub, the wheels were 32/40 if memory serves me well. It had a steel Campag seat post, Cinelli headset with a clip and those bianchish headtube lugs, inch pitch with Cinelli Cranks. But what was really odd about the bike was that it had a derailleur hangar brazed to the bottom of the track drop out.

So, right when I would attempt to solidify the deal, he would change his mind, this happen more than once. One day he called and told me that he was in financial distress/his business was slow and he can no long ride do to an advanced ear infection, so the bike is mine, if I still want it. This time, as he rolled it out he told me that he very carefully hacksawed that cheesy derailleur hangar off......

End of story, Dave Martinez Fremont Ca

HM & SS Sachs <> wrote: Ray's remarks take me back to the day, about 1970, that I hacked a Jack. That is, I brazed on a mount for a (Suntour) derailleur. This one was a tandem a couple bought themselves as a wedding present. Old-style chainstay-mounted in-and-out derailleur, tiny vertical drops. No one could get it to work right. So, I cut and filed a hanger, and silver-soldered it on. Bike shifted better with the new derailleur. Unfortunately, though both were avid cyclists, within a year they had decided to save the marriage by riding singles and selling the Tantrum... Would I do the hack again? Not likely. At least not on an old one. :-)

Your mileage may vary; we still love tandems.

harvey sachs mcLean VA

Roy wrote: I am finding a bit of humor in this also. Chris, I can laugh along with you. I received several emails from some of you folks. Every one told me that it was a perfectly okay to hack saw the derailleur hanger off on some bikes as it did not detract from the bike at all. I was told that in some cases it made the bike more period correct. I guess I learn something new every day. I wonder what kind of looks I would get if I bring my good ol Craftsman hack saw to the Cirque and walk around eyeing D hangers? I am going to try and make it this year and will look for some volunteers. Don't worry, I,m pretty good with new blade ;)

Ray Homiski
Elizabeth, NJ