Re: [CR]Simplex mech on Campy drop: was: Hacksawn Dropouts: A SmokingGun?


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From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Thomas R. Adams, Jr." <kctommy@msn.com>
References: <BAY4-F3cxg6cMHsTsHl000189ca@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Simplex mech on Campy drop: was: Hacksawn Dropouts: A SmokingGun?
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:37:11 -0600


No problem at all. All Simplex derailleurs since the late 60's at least have a female threaded collar that will fit inside the hanger hole on either Simplex or Campy DO's . The hanger bold threads into this collar. A Simplex derailleur does not need the notch in the Campy DO to stop the forward rotation of the derailleur body, as the spring loaded upper pivot opposes the forward rotation. The spring loaded upper pivot also gives Simplex better range and distinctly better shifting. Simplex was a better design all around.

Unfortunately, Simplex got a bad name due to the cheap stamped steel jockey cage on the Prestige model found on low end bike boom Peugeots and Gitanes. The flexing of the cage ruined the shifting. It wasn't any worse than the Campy Valentino or the 2-ton Campy Gran Tourismo, but Campy was fortunate that very few bikes with their crappy lower end derailleurs were sold in the US. So, in the US market, Campy was judged on their best model, while Simplex was judged on their worst. This led to the perception that Campy derailleurs worked better than Simplex, when the truth was just the opposite.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Houston, TX


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From: "Thomas R. Adams, Jr."
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<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: [CR]Simplex mech on Campy drop: was: Hacksawn Dropouts: A SmokingGun?


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> With all this talk on putting a Campy shifter on a Simplex drop out, I'm now curious about the reverse procedure: putting a Simplex rear mech on a Campy drop out.
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> Was it done via an eared washer ala Huret Duopar and a different pivot bolt? Or were there so many Campy compatible Simplex mechs that it hasn't been a problem? Are there acceptable "field expendient" methods for making this combo work? What has restrained me from pursuing several Simplex mechs in the past are concerns about putting a Simplex shifter for a Simplex dropout on a Campy drop out.
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> Any tips out there?
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> Tom Adams, Shrewsbury NJ
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