Re: [CR]Epitome Of Bilaminated Frames

Example: Production Builders:Peugeot

From: "roman stankus" <>
To: "Grant McLean" <>, <>, "Richard M Sachs (E-mail)" <>
References: <D40031E5F7ACD71195BC009027887CFF118EB6@SLSERVER>
Subject: Re: [CR]Epitome Of Bilaminated Frames
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 21:07:56 -0400

Exhaustive studies of Mies' work over the past 30 years have conclusively shown that "Less is Less" as modern architecture shows its age and lack of understanding of basic human patterns of life. Beautiful stuff(some of it) that doesn't work terribly well. Similar to a beautifully crafted frame with bad geometry that rides harshly. Some like the Thing so much they are willing to suffer the ride or the building.

Unlike buildings, bike lugs are fashion. Choose your lug designs based on approprite party attire. Sometimes a tuxedo, sometimes casual, sometimes lace! Done right - I love them all.

Roman Stankus in Atlanta Ga. where personal tastes run toward the quiet and sublime

In response to Peter, Grant wrote:
> "Famous for his dictum 'Less is More', Mies attempted to create
> contemplative, neutral spaces through an architecture based on
> material honesty and structural integrity. Over the last twenty
> years of his life, Mies achieved his vision of a monumental
> 'skin and bone' architecture. His later works provide a fitting
> denouement to a life dedicated to the idea of a universal,
> simplified architecture ."
> >
> "P.C. Kohler" <> writes:
> My god... they really do look like French frilly knickers!
> I know they are hallmark of bespoke British framemaking, etc. etc. and I
> have followed this fascinating thread with great interest, but I must
> confess the aesthetic appeal of these ornate lugs simply escapes me. I
> regard these frames as wonders of 1950s-60s craftsmanship and technology.
> Yet they resemble early Victorian industrial revolution technology which
> sought to camouflage their very modernity with ornate, fussy artiface.
> They look like early Singer sewing machines to me. Can you imagine a 1950s
> or
> 1960s sportscar with such retrograde aesthetics? Like an E-Type with faux
> wood side panels. Or a VC-10 with faux canvas wing covering.
> Peter Kohler
> Washington DC USA
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