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Today's Topics:

1. Cirque 04 (some pic links) 2. Re: Cranks I Have Broken (Silver, Mordecai) 3. Which rims for Harden hubs? 4. Tire Alert! procedures 5. RE: Which rims for Harden hubs? (kohl57@starpower.net) 6. Re: Tire Alert! procedures 7. for sale 8. Hetchins track bike on ebay 9. Re: Death Stems are you just being alarmist? (Larry Osborn) 10. Re: Re: CR-Tubular repair 11. Fiamme rim time-line (Ted Baer) 12. Triplets of Belleville on DVD (apgmaa@earthlink.net) 13. Re: Re: CR-Tubular repair 14. gear question, second request (HM & SS Sachs) 15. Greensboro Blues... (Chuck Schmidt) 16. Re: Fwd: Cinelli Road Racing Bike 1970 - - $1500 (jerrymoos) 17. my ebay: all $1 - Campagnolo, Cinelli, Mavic, Harden, Sugino, Iscaselle, Colnago (Ben Kamen)

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Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 14:00:11 -0500 From: plee1@optonline.net To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Cirque 04 (some pic links) Message-ID: <9e66279ea6a1.9ea6a19e6627@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 1

We returned from another excellent Cirque with only one new acquitition: My wife Rita picked up a 1974 champagne Raleigh International, reasonably complete and original (thanks Mike!). I came prepared with a roof rack with three extra bike mounts and plenty of extra space inside the van. There were almost no bikes or frames in my size to be had. Oh well. (I really don't Need any new projects anyway.)

http://www.myimgs.com/data/paulee/Osborn_Rita.jpg http://www.myimgs.com/data/paulee/Ritas_Int.jpg http://www.myimgs.com/data/paulee/chrome_nervex.jpg

Friday's fixed ride was interrupted for us when the drivechain on our Atala tandem jumped off the fixed cog, jammed between the cog and the spokes, snapped and wrapped itself tightly around the cog. After a few moments of hammering at the chain links with a large rock and my peanut butter wrench, I freed the chain, installed the extra link I had from my bag, and we were on our way. Alone.

Saturday's ride was more of a success. We chose the out in the county ride and were able to hang with the group, although the old 1952 French tandem's 48/16 top end left us spinning madly at times.

We met lots of new people this year and it was nice to see more spouses out there.

Again, I was negligent in taking tons of pictures (like I promised myself I would do) but I did take a few:

Winner, Best North American: Bilenky custom by Simon Firth, Philadelphia, PA http://www.myimgs.com/data/paulee/Bilenky.jpg (I think) (The Bilenky crew and their beautiful creations were an awesome surprise to me. Nice)

Winner, Most Personality: Schwinn... owner, David Perry, NYC http://www.myimgs.com/data/paulee/superior.JPG

One of John Pergolizzi's moments, captured: "-Jamie Swan and I just sitting on the bleachers on Sunday; taking it all in." http://www.myimgs.com/data/paulee/John_and_Jamie.jpg Their view: http://www.myimgs.com/data/paulee/gym_pano.jpg

Peter Weigle checking out Jamie Swan's latest frame: (note Dan Artley on Mike Self's Trike in the background) http://www.myimgs.com/data/paulee/peter_jamie.jpg

Thanks Dale, for another great event.

Paul Lee Huntington, NY

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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 15:11:54 -0400 From: "Silver, Mordecai" <MSilver@iso.com> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR]Cranks I Have Broken Message-ID: <773FCCCDD7698245881983051782789104362D9E@isomailp3.iso.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2

Mick Butler wrote: "As for Pivo stems I will take your word on it I personally have never heard of this unless you are foolish enough to mount steel bars on an alloy stem."

Can you please explain why it's dangerous to do this?

Mordecai Silver NY, NY ------------------------------

Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 19:20:15 +0000 From: t.kielman@comcast.net To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org (C.R. LIST) Subject: [CR]Which rims for Harden hubs? Message-ID: <050720041920.3966.409BE16F000DD86200000F7E2200761438FF919E92939A9694D1@comcast.net> Precedence: list Message: 3

What type of rims do you'se all use for 50's era hubs,for instance Harden,Airlite,F.B.,etc.Both modern and period correct.I'm interested in this as something for the sake of ridability,not for museum display. Thanks,

Todd Kielman Chicago ------------------------------

Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 12:28:43 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: chasds@mindspring.com To: CYCLESTORE@aol.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Tire Alert! procedures Message-ID: <21200295.1083958127567.JavaMail.root@wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: chasds@mindspring.com Message: 4

Gilbert Anderson wrote:

"I'd be shocked if anyone could stitch a whole tire up for $20.00, then glue the tape and throw in the tube for that. If it's true I want this guy worki n for me. Is his name David?"

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Actually, I do believe he splits the entire carcass, installs a new tube, and re-sews it.

The reason I believe this is because he always glues a new base-tape on. Why bother doing that if you just splice the new tube back together at the existing break?

I have been told by a couple of different people over the years, who may or may not have known what they were talking about, that the guy who runs this business bought some custom tooling from Clement or Victoria or someone in Italy, and he has the same tooling those companies had/have for assembling tires.

This could be inaccurate, but it seems likely he has *some* sort of specific semi-automated tooling for the job.

Charles Andrews soCal ------------------------------

Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 15:38:05 -0400 From: "kohl57@starpower.net" <kohl57@starpower.net> To: t.kielman@comcast.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: RE: [CR]Which rims for Harden hubs? Message-ID: <238110-2200455719385353@M2W077.mail2web.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Reply-To: kohl57@starpower.net Message: 5

Original Message: ----------------- From: t.kielman@comcast.net Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 19:20:15 +0000 To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org (C.R. LIST) Subject: [CR]Which rims for Harden hubs?

"What type of rims do you'se all use for 50's era hubs,for instance Harden,Airlite,F.B.,etc.Both modern and period correct.I'm interes ted in this as something for the sake of ridability,not for museum display. Thanks,

Todd Kielman Chicago"

As far as I'm concerned, there is ONE choice: Conloy "Asp" alloy 27 x 1 1/4". I have these on Harden hubs (front)/ SA FM alloy hub (rear) on my '48 RRA (ex Paul Raley). Perfect in lightness, looks, ride and quality. Polishing these beauties with Simichrome with Elgar's "In the South" on th e grammophone is a near religious experience. Asp rims are not uncommon bu t costly. But worth every penny especially if you're mating them to hubs o f equal quality like Harden hubs. These were, I believe, the first alloy r ims at least in England and date to c. 1937. Nothing better has been made since for clinchers.

Peter Kohler Washington DC USA

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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 15:42:40 EDT From: CYCLESTORE@aol.com To: chasds@mindspring.com, CYCLESTORE@aol.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Re: Tire Alert! procedures Message-ID: <98.a3eadf1.2dcd40b0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 6

Charles,

Wow and still only $20. He may have the tooling but it's easier to splice a tube than rip out old stitching sometimes.

A sewing machine is only semi-automated. He might put a new base tape on because original ones after being used are so beat up they spoil the work. But who knows. Lets ask him. The reason I thought he splices in new tubes was a Velonews interview with a fellow like this 20 years ago and when asked if he split the tire to install a tube his reply was as I remember, "NO WAY JACK, I splice in a new tube."

The price is right. Lets support this guy! He is a wizard.

ours in Cycling,

Gilbert Anderson

North Road Bicycle Company 519 W. North St. Raleigh, NC 27603 USA Toll Free Ph: 800•321•5511 Local Ph: 919•828•8999 E-mail: cyclestore@aol.com

In a message dated 5/7/04 3:28:54 PM, chasds@mindspring.com writes:

<< Gilbert Anderson wrote:

"I'd be shocked if anyone could stitch a whole tire up for $20.00, then glue=20 the tape and throw in the tube for that. If it's true I want this guy worki = n=20 for me. Is his name David?"

********

Actually, I do believe he splits the entire carcass, installs a new tube, and re-sews it.

The reason I believe this is because he always glues a new base-tape on. Why bother doing that if you just splice the new tube back together at the existing break?

I have been told by a couple of different people over the years, who may or may not have known what they were talking about, that the guy who runs this business bought some custom tooling from Clement or Victoria or someone in Italy, and he has the same tooling those companies had/have for assembling tires.

This could be inaccurate, but it seems likely he has *some* sort of specific semi-automated tooling for the job.

Charles Andrews soCal >> ------------------------------

Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 16:21:28 EDT From: TonyFNitro@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]for sale Message-ID: <149.28985e8c.2dcd49c8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7

greetings

i think this bike is cr legal

trek 400 true temper bd tubes 20.5 c-t red with some scrathes. shimano sis componenyts deore r,der. sakae oval tech crank matrix rims need truing tires and seat old. malliard 500 sf hubs no frame damage. 6 speed aero brake levers. sakae bars. needs good cleaning. have picture, $125.00 plus shipping.

thanks robbie fellows lomg beach.ca.

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Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 20:36:27 +0000 From: themaaslands@comcast.net To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org (Classic Rendezvous) Subject: [CR]Hetchins track bike on ebay Message-ID: <050720042036.9173.409BF34A00076206000023D52200734748FF8C9B919E938C9E9E929A97@comcast.net> Precedence: list Message: 8

I know that I won't be able to afford it, so I would like to point out a very interesting Hetchins track bike from the 40's. The honesty of the item description is very encouraging. Perhaps something for Hetchins Pete?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&categoryr98&item676431099

-- Steven Maasland Moorestown, NJ ------------------------------

Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 16:50:36 -0400 From: Larry Osborn <losborn2@wvu.edu> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Death Stems are you just being alarmist? Message-ID: <200405072050.i47KoYiI023826@mx6.wvu.edu> In-Reply-To: <409BD687.4384944E@earthlink.net> References: <BAY16-F38qIQ3pEjOTp000091a3@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 9

I agree with both these comments, but the glaring difference in circumstances is that these are high stress racing situations. I don't break stuff. I don't even bend stuff. I don't have the strength, weight, or riding style. I've always been a little guy, moving slow, nursing bad knees & shoulders (an excellent early warning system if I ever wonder if I'm pushing too hard), "just riding along" in the most literal sense of the word except now when I'm screaming like a crazed woobie down some WV/PA hill. Even now there's not another component out there that I'm afraid of, except maybe used lightweight mtb bars, and I'm just not stupid enough to ride those. If something broke under ME, and my stick boy pal, riding in the flat midwest, that's really gotta get your attention. Your teeth. Your face. Your head. Your choice.

Larry "Kong" Osborn Bruceton Hills WV

At 10:33 AM 5/7/2004 -0800, you wrote: >Mick Butler wrote: >> >> I have ridden Viscount Aerospace forks, Ava and Pivo extensions (stems) and >> Cinelli M71 pedals without any problems. Where do all these horror stories >> come from? I never had any trouble with any of this equipment. Although I >> would not recommend road riding on the Cinelli's. In my capacity as an >> official starter in time trials have personally witnessed Campag cranks >> snapping and also their pedals breaking when pushing off. We have had their >> titanium bottom bracket axles spectacularly fail in our events. >> Why no horror stories about this maker? >> Best wishes and be lucky. Michael Butler Huntingdon UK. > > >All you have to do is ask people that have raced for a long time about >the parts they have broken and you'll hear stories that will make your >hair curl. And if they are old enough they will tell you about the >_steel_ cranks they broke. > >Racing components evolve to the lightest weight that will still get the >job done. As a consequence you will have breakage and injuries. > >Alarmist? As the saying goes, "Life will kill ya!" > >Chuck Schmidt >South Pasadena, Southern California > >. >_______________________________________________ >Classicrendezvous mailing list >Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org >http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous >

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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 16:56:16 EDT From: LouDeeter@aol.com To: CYCLESTORE@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Re: CR-Tubular repair Message-ID: <11a.31ec441f.2dcd51f0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10

In a message dated 5/7/2004 2:24:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, CYCLESTORE@aol.com writes:

they probably just cut a tube in two, tie it to the old one and pull it around. Untie it, splice it back together and stitch up a small hole, glue the tape and you are done. No loose fit to speak of.

I'd be shocked if anyone could stitch a whole tire up for $20.00,

Well, they returned a tire to me, unrepaired, and all the threading was removed, the carcass was flat and they had marked a place on the inside sidewall where the cut was too much for them to make repair an option. I haven't completely taken one of these repaired tires apart, but I believe they do completely remove thread, install tube, sew up the carcass and apply base tape. Lou

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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 14:17:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Baer <wickedsky@sbcglobal.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Fiamme rim time-line Message-ID: <20040507211729.4789.qmail@web80602.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 11

Greetings,

Does anyone know of a really good time-line for Fiamme rims? Interested in the early stuff--not the 80's rectangle decal style and so forth.

Ted Baer Palo Alto, CA ------------------------------

Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 18:01:52 -0400 From: "apgmaa@earthlink.net" <apgmaa@earthlink.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Triplets of Belleville on DVD Message-ID: <114780-2200455722152260@M2W087.mail2web.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Reply-To: apgmaa@earthlink.net Message: 12

CRs:

FYI, the Friday, May 7th issue of USA Today noted that the Triplets of Belleville movie is now released on DVD.

Andrew Gillis (Long Beach, CA)

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Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 18:27:05 -0400 From: raleypc@netscape.net To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Re: CR-Tubular repair Message-ID: <404D1D10.30EF9CF1.00211578@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 13

I have sent Tire Alert at least 6 tubulars for repair and I think that they do a fine job now. If you sent him two tires he will retube them for $15 each including postage! This is a deal. It is too bad that he does not do latex tubes as it is usually the light latex tubed Veloflex Criteriums or Servio Corsa that need repair. They still ride very nice with butyl tubes in any case!

Paul Raley Leonardtown MD LouDeeter@aol.com wrote:

>In a message dated 5/7/2004 2:24:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, >CYCLESTORE@aol.com writes: > >they probably just cut a tube in two, tie it to the old one and pull it >around. Untie it, splice it back together and stitch up a small hole, glue >the >tape and you are done. No loose fit to speak of. > >I'd be shocked if anyone could stitch a whole tire up for $20.00, > >Well, they returned a tire to me, unrepaired, and all the threading was >removed, the carcass was flat and they had marked a place on the inside sidewall >where the cut was too much for them to make repair an option. I haven't >completely taken one of these repaired tires apart, but I believe they do completely >remove thread, install tube, sew up the carcass and apply base tape. Lou > > >--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- >multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html >--- >_______________________________________________ >Classicrendezvous mailing list >Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org >http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous >

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Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 18:37:57 -0400 From: HM & SS Sachs <sachs@erols.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, marcus.e.helman@gm.com Subject: [CR]gear question, second request Message-ID: <409C0FC5.5020900@erols.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 14

Marcus Helman wrote:

Oh wise ones,

A little while ago I posted asking about gearing theory. No one answered . I know you were all at Cirque, but I could have just dug a hole and whispered my question into it. Here goes again.

I get the concept of setting things up so that there is not much duplication, but I have questions.

MH: How much difference is noticeable? Harvey: I think I can notice small changes (like one tooth in back, at le ast for smaller cogs, where it approaches 5%. I just don't think it matte rs in most applications.

MH: I can imagine setting it up so that the steps are good, but I have to shift both front and rear each time. Can this be avoided? Harvey: Yes, pretty easily. Two examples: classic half-step, when you wo uld change both half the time. Long ago, I went to the other extreme, wi th a 28/48 front, and a close 5-speed block, so I had 5 speeds with the 2 8, and an additional 4 with the large cog (28x14 was very close to 48x wh atever).

MH: Does it make sense to set up a reasonable progression for the big rin g, and the small ring, and not get hung up on avoiding duplication? Harvey: It only has to make sense to you, and be available with the cogs you can use on that bike with that derailleur and cranks. Do you get gea rs that are low enough, high enough, and close enough?

MH: What is half-step gearing? Harvey: A system in which each step in back has about the same per cent c hange as the others; and the change between the large and middle (ignorin g the granny) is half of that change. For example, a 14-16-18-21-24 has a bout 14% steps. A 47-50 or similar front set has about a 6% range, so yo u can get very nice, closely spaced gears with a rather wide range. On m y wife's bike, we have used a 13-16-20-25-31 Regina Oro with 40-45 Strong lights for 20 years or so. that gives changes in back that are about 25%, and a front split of 12.5%. Top is 93, low is 35, so you have a pretty remarkable range for a 10-speed. This is very nice in situations in whic h you want fine tuning capability, as when riding long distances with fai rly long but constant effort levels. Long hills, etc. When it is rollin g, or very steep, half-step is not as useful, but no penalty: you just d o "full" shifts across the back when you get to the top of the hill. Or the bottom.

MH: Is there such a thing as whole-step gearing? Harvey: In the old days, the Schwinns were so afflicted, something like a 39-50, if I recall correctly.

MH: Is there a written source on all this? Harvey: Senior moment, don't remember, but I'd expect it in DeLong and si milar books.

harvey sachs mcLean va

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Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 15:53:02 -0800 From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Greensboro Blues... Message-ID: <409C2143.B4380CC3@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net Message: 15

Gettin' up in the morning, walking over to IHOP, being greeted by the lovely Lisa (a Southern Belle for sure), and it turns out, all my best friends in the whole wide world happen to be eating at the same place too. Small world, ain't it!

Hot and humid, cold and rainy, just wait an hour or two. Talk about green; they don't call it Greensboro for nothin'. There was still a green tinge to everything I looked at when I got back to LA.

Too much fun everyday and night to waste it sleeping so running on coffee and 4 hr sleep each day.

Bikes everywhere but you really didn't see much because you're locked into these intense conversations with your friends you only see but once every year. Bikes? I can see bikes anytime (okay, I admit it, I have lots of bikes).

Walking down the hall and what do I see but an open door and peering inside, a room full of what? BIKES of course. Well, well, well... Then the pretzels and the beer comes out and two hours later you're still standing there talking about what? BIKES of course!

And the smell of testosterone in the air at the start of the group rides; boys will be boys, right Pergo? "And then I put it in the big ring..."

Oh yeah, and people reachin' out, fingering my hair looking for little horns on my head (how'd that go Dale, Monsieur Provocateur?).

And bumper cars on the way back to the hotel... hey stop it Jan, you'll set off the airbags (the land of NASCAR isn't it?)!!!

And the feeling of awe and wonderment over the event that Dale keeps improving on year after year after year (I'm putting on my fourth out here in SoCal and can only shake my head in amazement over Dale's energy with the web site, the CR list, Le Cirque and Cycles de Oro, one of the nicest shops I have ever seen in 30 years).

ATTA BOY DALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, Southern California

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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 18:01:32 -0500 From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> To: "George Argiris" <George.Argiris@mitchell.com>, "Morgan Fletcher" <morgan@hahaha.org>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR]Fwd: Cinelli Road Racing Bike 1970 - - $1500 Message-ID: <01fb01c43487$3dbef2d0$efddfea9@mooshome> References: <F96935FCB9C3D549B3B6CD8915811A2F0770052D@mail60nt.mitchell.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 16

Phil Wood hubs ARE classic. They were already around in the mid-70's for sure and perhaps in 1970.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Houston, TX

----- Original Message ----- From: "George Argiris" <George.Argiris@mitchell.com> To: "Morgan Fletcher" <morgan@hahaha.org>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 10:03 AM Subject: RE: [CR]Fwd: Cinelli Road Racing Bike 1970 - - $1500

Why would you put Phil Woods on a classic?

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Morgan Fletcher Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 7:57 AM To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Fwd: Cinelli Road Racing Bike 1970 - - $1500

Please note, I am NOT the seller. I saw this local ad:

http://www.craigslist.org/nby/bik/30592397.html

Cinelli Road Racing Bike 1970, model A. 59cm. (Primo Condition)$2000. or best offer Nvovo record equipment, Philwood Hubs, Rigida Clincher rims Either call or E-Mail Jay 415-488-9519

Hope it works out for one of you. (It was $2000 last week, but it looks like he lowered it to $1500.)

Morgan Fletcher Oakland, CA _______________________________________________ Classicrendezvous mailing list Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous _______________________________________________ Classicrendezvous mailing list Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous

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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 18:56:25 -0400 From: Ben Kamen <dupe@mac.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]my ebay: all $1 - Campagnolo, Cinelli, Mavic, Harden, Sugino, Iscaselle, Colnago Message-ID: <C4A5BE43-A079-11D8-8AD7-000393B3BF4C@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <CATFOODxiJmMRUJYa7u000013d0@catfood.nt.phred.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 17

Hey all,

Doing a reverse face from collecting for future projects ... lotsa nice stuff - no reserve & everything is listed for $1 .....

search under my ebay ID ..... merckx_69

or click the following link for my ebay auctions

http://tinyurl.com/255z

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a quick listing if anything interests you ..... lotsa pics for you image compilers

Campy Track Hubs 36h - new - sheriff star

Campagnolo NR/SR High Flange Hubset in Box 36H - Mint+

Campagnolo SR crank arms 170mm - Milled "mexico" style - Exc

Campagnolo Cobalto Calipers - mint+

Campagnolo Nuovo Record Headset - NOS

Cinelli Unicanitor #3 - Cool Yellow Suede - Excellent

Cinelli Unicanitor Saddle - Aluminium Rails - Leather

IscaSelle Tornado Saddle - NOS

Harden High Flange Track Hubs 32/40 - NOS

Frame Pump - Colnago Branding - NOS

Sugino Aero Mighty Pedal Set - New in Box

Mavic MRL 570 Rear Hubs x 3 - Cool Design

Mavic Cogs - Superlight Alu - NOS

Mavic SSC Rear Derailleur - "Erector Set" - good

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anyway, go for it

ciao,

Ben Kamen

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