I have three Internationals, two '71's and a '73. Both '71'a have the seat stay loop, but the chartreuse '73 does not. The '73 is a smaller frame (21 1/2") and had never been assembled when I obtained it via Ebay so I am confident it is original. Also original was the unbrazed seat tube to BB joint - the reason it was not built up! My '73's have very different forks (and very different amounts of offset) resulting in completely different handling characteristics. Raleighs' specs seem to have been quite creative during this period!
Paul Raley Leonardtown MD
r cielec <teaat4p@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Nope, stays clean as a whistle. Original paint. I purchased Internat as frame&fork so, do not know how it was actually equipped. I wonder if it was OEM custom with side pulls. Though, it did have the Weinmann deep, front hanger in poor condition.
>
>(My Competion has the loop. And, Universal side pulls. Too bad I couldn't move the loop from the Comp to the Internat.)
>
>Richard Cielec
>Chicago, Illinois
>
>
>Steve Kurt <kurtsj@mtco.com> wrote:
>Hi Richard,
>Every International that I've ever seen has had that loop brazed to
>the seatstays. In fact, every Raleigh of that time period equipped with
>centerpulls had that loop. Maybe someone sawed yours off when they
>installed sidepulls??
>The lack of a loop means that you can use whatever cable hanger
>works, since you don't have the original equipment. Or maybe find
>someone to braze a loop back on?
>
>best wishes,
>Steve Kurt
>Peoria, IL
>(where I have a '71 and a '74 International)
>
>
>
>From: r cielec
>Subject: Re: [CR]Raleigh International Rear Brake Cable Hanger & Seat Bolt
>
>Duane:
>Sorry - brain cramp. Internat is S/N "F" either late 72 or 73, I think.
>Mine did not have the braze loop you mention. I know the type. My mid 70's
>Raleigh Super Grand Prix has the loop.
>What do your 72 and 74 have?
>Thanks.
>
>Duane Kennard wrote:
>
>Hi Richard,
>
>Original style was a steel loop brazed to the seat stays, a couple of
>inches below the seat binder.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Duane Kennard (3 Internationals... 1 '71 & 2 '74)
>
>
>On May 8, 2004, at 5:53 PM, r cielec wrote:
>
>> For all you International owners - Any idea what was the original make
>> & style of rear brake cable hanger?
>> My 71 Inter nat. has a "V" shaped Mafac, with hanger-seat bolt holes
>> slotted to receive the little nib under the head of the seat bolt. Of
>> course, the rear hanger fills the space between the bolt head and the
>> seat lug such that the nib is displaced to not index into the seat
>> lug. Should the Internat. be fitted with seat bolt having a longer
>> nib?
>> Richard Cielec
>> Chicago, Illinois
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