[CR]Brooks Team Pro/Raleigh was Brooks Professional is GONE

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From: "Eric Elman" <tr4play@cox.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: [CR]Brooks Team Pro/Raleigh was Brooks Professional is GONE
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 08:07:21 -0400


Just a small point of clarification re. Jerry's note below. The Brooks Team Pro was indeed spec'd as standard on a Raleigh but it was on the Raleigh Team Pro that it came on starting in early 1974, not the Raleigh Pro. The Raleigh Pro was always spec'd (to the best of my knowledge and experience) with the regular, smaller rivet Brooks Pro. I have seen a few Raleigh Pro's over the years with a Team Pro saddle on them but believe it more likely then not that the saddle had either been changed at one point or Raleigh just substituted that saddle due to a shortage of supply on occasion.

Eric Elman
Nice day for a ride
Somers, CT


----- Original Message -----
From: jerrymoos
To: Donald Gillies


<velocio@earthlink.net> Cc: <internet-bob@bikelist.org> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Brooks Professional is GONE


> The Team Pro was introduced in the early 70's, I think first as OE on the
> Raleigh Pro in that era. It has large copper rivets. The Team Pro has been
> much more common in US for many years than the original Pro with smaller
> rivets. In fact, for several years, those offering "Brooks Pro" in the US
> were usually actually selling the Team Pro. I don't think I've bought a new
> standard Pro in US since 1974. I've bought several, but always ordered them
> direct from UK. So that Brooks would drop the standard Pro is not all that
> surprising. Now if they dropped the Team Pro as well, that would be
> shocking news. So is the Team Pro available in green?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald Gillies" <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>; <velocio@earthlink.net>
> Cc: <internet-bob@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:06 PM
> Subject: [CR]Brooks Professional is GONE
>
>
> >
> > Yes, the standard brooks professional has been dropped from the brooks
> > website, as tom martin just indicated. The team pro is still
> > available, and it is a close substitute.
> >
> > Perhaps the profit margins or the sales of the regular brooks professional
> > were not enough for selle italia to keep the saddle in the lineup ?? Or
> is
> > brooks now going to offer only pre-softened saddles in order to make the
> > brand more popular to first-time buyers ??
> >
> > I'd like to know exactly why this model was dropped.
> >
> > - Don Gillies
> > San Diego, CA