[CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 25, Issue 1

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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 08:43:29 -0600
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 25, Issue 1

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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Vintage Sieber on ebay (Todd Kuzma)
> 2. Philosophy on Rides (Felix Chiu)
> 3. Re: short TT (Jan Heine)
> 4. Re: Eisentraut classes (alan)
> 5. Re: short TT (John Thompson)
> 6. Re: parts for that Cinelli (was re: gios for sale)
> (Dan Christopherson)
> 7. Tip for Those Pumphead Blue Tips (JB Froke)
> 8. Richard Sachs Frame & Fork - $850 (los gatos) (charles nighbor)
> 9. Eisentraut (charles nighbor)
> 10. Happy Classic NEW YEAR (wspokes)
> 11. WTB: Weinmann CP Front Spacer (r cielec)
> 12. Bob Jackson FS (charles nighbor)
> 13. That Perfect Find for More than one to ENJOY! (Matteo Brandi)
> 14. Re: WTB: Weinmann CP Front Spacer (Dan Christopherson)
> 15. FS: NOS Sugino Chainwheels (Eric Elman)
> 16. Andre Bertin (Michael Butler)
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:59:48 -0600
> From: Todd Kuzma <tullio@theramp.net>
> To: stephen fredette <sfredette@earthlink.net>
> Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Vintage Sieber on ebay
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> On Dec 31, 2004, at 8:16 PM, stephen fredette wrote:
>
>> oh my:
>> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>> ViewItem&categoryB0&iteme02646436&rd=1
>
> What a beaut! Class? Any thoughts?
>
> Todd Kuzma
> Tullio's Big Dog Cyclery
> Heron Bicycles
> LaSalle IL 815-223-1776
> http://www.tullios.com/
> http://www.heronbicycles.com/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 19:07:19 -0800
> From: "Felix Chiu" <fcjchiu@comcast.net>
> To: <jvs@sonic.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Philosophy on Rides
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> Hi Jay and List:
>
>
>
> I am responding to your request for thoughts on vintage rides.
>
>
>
> As far as I'm concerned, and I hold to that believe when I organize
> rides,
> these rides are excuses to hang-out, a chance to ride your old bike,
> admire
> other's old bikes and in general, meet some other like minded
> individuals.
> These rides should be fairly flat, not too long (less than 30 miles),
> fair
> weather only, no drop, no hammer with plenty of stops and some kind of
> coffee/lunch break at the end where every one can socialize and check
> out
> each others bikes. I strongly believe in this and I found that to be
> the
> most enjoyable to me and most others that come out to these rides. I
> love
> looking at someone else's bikes and I especially admire someone that
> makes
> the effort to bring something different and interesting. For this
> reason, I
> always try to prepare and bring something that I think someone else
> would
> enjoy looking at. Sometimes this would mean that I would spend many
> hours
> the week before to get the particular bike ready which could be
> swapping on
> a more appropriate part, some extra cleaning etc. The bikes I have
> are not
> particularly special and I do not have any "WOW" bikes but in my own
> little
> way, I try to do what I can to make these rides more enjoyable based
> on my
> believe above. There are many other opportunities to ride in the
> rain, try
> to drop your buddies, hammer your brains out, ride your disposable
> modern
> bikes, etc. Please don't do it on one of the vintage rides and
> especially
> not on one of mine.
>
>
>
> Maybe we can do a joint Silicon Valley, Sonoma County ride sometime.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> Felix Chiu
>
> Foster City, CA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 19:25:54 -0800
> From: Jan Heine <heine93@earthlink.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]short TT
> Message-ID: <a05210689bdfbc76a87d6@[68.167.248.248]>
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> Morgan
>
>> Or maybe they'd have put me on a 68cm (exaggerating for humor's sake)
>> back
>> then, with a finger of seatpost showing.
>>
>
> At 6' 2", they would have put you on something bigger than a 60 back
> then, so much is sure! The 59 top tube sounds right, but they might
> have put you on a 65 seat tube. The position basically would be the
> same, and some argue taller frames ride better and absorb shock
> better...
>
> Is it true that British riders preferred small frames after the war?
> I have heard that somewhere. I know the French didn't. Looking over
> racers' bikes in old photos, most rode frames many would consider too
> big today.
>
> The fact is that in the 1940s and 1950s, there were few Italians and
> French taller than 6'. Even today, there aren't that many. So finding
> a classic bike with a classic fit for you is not an easy task.
>
> --
> Jan Heine, Seattle
> Editor/Publisher
> Vintage Bicycle Quarterly
> c/o Il Vecchio Bicycles
> 140 Lakeside Ave, Ste. C
> Seattle WA 98122
> http://www.mindspring.com/~heine/bikesite/bikesite/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 19:37:42 -0800
> From: alan <worthy2@earthlink.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Re: Eisentraut classes
> Message-ID: <41D61B06.8010809@earthlink.net>
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>>
>>
>>
>>>> Who went to Al Eisentraut's framebuilding classes? Can
>>>>
>>>>
>>> someone share the
>>>
>>>
>>>> history??
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Joe Breeze
>>> Bruce Gordon
>>> Dan Nall
>>> Tim Zazadni
>>> Mark Nobillette
>>> Sam Braxton
>>> Those are the ones I remember - there are more I'm sure.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Especially I'd like to hear about the rock stars like:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Ed Litton - no
>>>
>>> Peter Johnson - no
>>>
>>> Tom Ritchey - no
>>>
>>> Bernie Mickelson - no
>>>
>>> Happy New Year
>>> Bruce Gordon
>>> Bruce Gordon Cycles
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________
>>>
> Maybe not his classes, but there IS a connection between Ed Litton and
> Albert Eisentraut. Story I heard is that Ed paid him a visit to get
> some
> work done and Albert told him he was selling all his equipment and
> qutting the business that day, so Ed bought it.
> Just a story, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but I'm sure somebody
> on this list can...I CAN vouch for Mr. Litton, though: he's a prince of
> a guy.
> How about Steelman, any Eisentraut connection there?
> Alan Goldsworthy
> San Francisco, CA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 21:41:31 -0600
> From: John Thompson <JohnThompson@new.rr.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]short TT
> Message-ID: <41D61BEB.6070100@new.rr.com>
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> r cielec wrote:
>
>>> From my experience of not many bikes, TT's are to the long side,
>>> not the short. I ride a 51.5 - 52 ST and TT usually give me a
>>> stretch. Perhaps the small frame height forces the geometery. I
>>> can't say. Also, the Raleighs and Witcomb and Paramounts (Raleigh
>>> clones?) have very long TT's for me while several Italians - Basso,
>>> Bianchi, Tommassini (sp?), Masi - have a shorter read the right
>>> size for me - TT's. A long while ago, one of the women listers who
>>> rides shorter frames made a similar observation - that English run
>>> long in TT's while the Italians run shorter (and fit well the
>>> shorter rider). To repeat - this is from my experience from the few
>>> bikes I've ridden.
>
> Some of this may also be due to UCI regulations. I remember Trek
> sponsored a womans' track team at the worlds in the 80s and we had to
> rebuild all the team frames because the front-center measurment didn't
> meet UCI regulations. So we had to provide them with some
> goofy-but-compliant frames, like 48cm seat tube with a 55cm
> front-center
> measurement.
>
> --
> John (john@os2.dhs.org)
> Appleton WI USA
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:11:51 -0800
> From: "Dan Christopherson" <danlchris@hotmail.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]parts for that Cinelli (was re: gios for sale)
> Message-ID: <BAY101-DAV8191A141F6934DC5CA41DAB9E0@phx.gbl>
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> Thank you Charles Andrews and Steven Maasland, for this (compiled)
> guide to
> value for vintage Campy NR. Now, maybe we could get Sheldon Brown to
> update
> the Vintage Lightweight Pricing Guide (Wild Guesses of Value for
> Selected
> Vintage Lightweights by Michael Kone and Sheldon Brown; 1997) -
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/vrbn-a-f.html .
>
> Dan "wiser about used Campy values" Christopherson
> Lopez Island WA
>
>
> Steven Maasland wrote:
>> Charles suggested the following approximate values for the purchase of
> various parts needed for building up a theoretical 1971 Cinelli bike. I
> think that it should be pointed out that Charles is located in a part
> of the
> country where high-end vintage bikes are relatively common (as
> compared to
> the rest of the country) and Charles is more well-connected than most
> of us
> with possible supply sources. I have included my comment about each
> price
> that he suggested in CAPS next to his price quotations. I believe these
> prices to reflect general levels seen in many parts of the country.
>>
>> Vintage Nuovo Record wheels, w/ QR: $100 or less. I AGREE AND WOULD
>> ADD
> THAT THIS PRICE USUALLY INCLUDES BOTH FREEWHEEL AND A SET OF VERY WORN
> TIRES. IF YOU HOWEVER INSIST ON THE PROPER DATE CODES ON THE OUTWARDLY
> INVISIBLE LOCKNUTS, THE PRICE WILL GO UP.
>> Cinelli bars and stem: $40 THIS IS ON THE LOW SIDE IF UNSCRATCHED OLD
> LOGO BARS ARE CALLED FOR. IF OLD LOGO ONES WITH BOLTED STEM ARE
> SOUGHT, YOU
> WOULD NEED TO DOUBLE THIS NUMBER, EVEN MORE IF YOU WANT BARS IN
> TODAY'S MOST
> COMMONLY USED WIDER WIDTHS.
>> Record seatpost 26.2: $30 FOR THE THEORETICAL 1971 CINELLI, YOU
>> WOULD BE
> HARD PRESSED TO FIND THE CORRECT VINTAGE ONE AT THIS PRICE.
>> Used unicanitor saddle: $30 FOR A USED ONE THIS PRICE IS MORE THAN
> ADEQUATE, THEY CAN OFTEN BE FOUND FOR CONSIDERABLY LESS.
>> Universal brakes and levers: $50 OVERALL I AGREE WITH THIS VALUE,
>> YOU CAN
> PERHAPS EVEN FIND THESE FOR LESS, HOWEVER YOU WOULD NORMALLY NEED TO
> FIND
> SOME REPLACEMENT HOODS WITHIN A SHORT TIME.
>> Regina corsa chain: $20 OK, SLIGHTLY MORE FOR THE ORO VARIANT.
>> Regina freewheel, used: $20 THESE ARE OFTEN INCLUDED WITH THE
>> WHEELSET,
> SO I WOULD BE TEMPTED TO DELETE THIS COST. ON THE OTHER HAND, SHOULD
> YOU
> DECIDE TO PUT A NEW CHAIN ON, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE
> INSTALLATION OF A
> NEW FREEWHEEL AT THE SAME TIME.
>> Campagnolo cranks: $50 ON EBAY, AND IN MY AREA, YOU WILL BE VERY
> HARD-PRESSED TO GET THESE FOR LESS THAN $60 AND THEN USUALLY WITH
> HEAVY WEAR
> TO THE CRANKS, CHAINRINGS OR POTENTIAL DAMAGE. I ALWAYS CALCULATE $100
> FOR
> CRANKS, MORE IF YOU ARE PICKY ABOUT DATE CODE OR CHAINRING
> COMBINATIONS.
>> Campagnolo steel pedals: $40 FOR USERS, THIS PRICE IS CORRECT, FOR
>> VERY
> CLEAN, UNSCRAPED PEDALS OR ONES WITH STRAP LOOPS ADD MORE.
>> Campagnolo NR rear derailleur: $45 THE PRICE IS RIGHT BUT TO FIND THE
> RIGHT DATE CODE IN TWO WEEKS WOULD NOT BE EASY.
>> Campagnolo record front: $30-40 THIS PRICE IS CORRECT.
>> Campagnolo shifters: $20 I FEEL THIS PRICE IS GENEROUS, I BELIEVE
>> YOU CAN
> SAY A MAX. OF $20.
>>
>> To which you must add not only the BB, but also the headset, tires and
> other incidentals. All told, I doubt that you could readily equip a
> frame
> with anything close to age correct components for an early 70's bike
> for
> less than $600.
>>
>> --
>> Steven Maasland
>> Moorestown, NJ
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:35:09 -0800
> From: "JB Froke" <jbfroke@msn.com>
> To: "classicrendezvous" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Tip for Those Pumphead Blue Tips
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> By Jove, I've found them: The little blue pussy toes for Campy
> Pumphead > feet. I have a cheap necktie rack from (as I recall) Target that is > white plastic-coated wire and made to hang on a closet rod. There are
> > fourteen tie hooks on the coat hangar sized rack, and each has a
> little > blue rubber tip to cap it off. After 2-3 years of looking at the > blasted thing on a daily basis, it hit me -- the little blue tips are
> a > near perfect match for Campy pussy toes. And at $5-6 for fourteen,
> I'd > say a mitigated perfect match. Check it out!
>
> JB Froke
> Pebble Beach, > CA<http://photos.msn.com/Viewing/Album.aspx?PST=8nK2AN1B!1JmZao!
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:54:59 -0800
> From: "charles nighbor" <cnighbor@pacbell.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Richard Sachs Frame & Fork - $850 (los gatos)
> Message-ID: <000801c4efbe$0c4241b0$71bffea9@CharlesNighbor>
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> ON craigslist SF with Picstures
> Richard Sachs Frame & Fork - $850 (los gatos)
>
> call 408 354-4390
> Not the seller or owner darn
> After getting a Peter Mooney frame and having it repainted I pass this
> > one up
> Enjoy te new year. Just got up Mt. diablo before rains returned
> charles (the older by one more year)( and slower on the bike by one
> more > year) Nighbor
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 21:02:30 -0800
> From: "charles nighbor" <cnighbor@pacbell.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Eisentraut
> Message-ID: <001601c4efbf$19242e10$71bffea9@CharlesNighbor>
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> 56cm Albert Eisentraut frame and fork for Trade
>
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> Reply to: vintagemasi@earthlink.net
> Date: 2004-12-31, 2:46PM PST
>
>
>
>
> I have a 56cm early vintage lugged Albert Eisentraut frame and fork > available for trade. This is a Model "A" frame with the unique bottom > bracket derailleur guides. The frame measures 56cm center to center,
> or > 57 center to top. The top tube is 56cm c-c. The rear spacing is 120mm,
> > the brakes are drilled for non-allen brakes. The frame looks like the > blue one in the attached link. Except it needs paint!
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA/Eisentraut_main.htm
>
> I am looking to trade for an interesting steel lugged frame and fork > that is my size. 59-61cm c-c. Got something to trade.Send me a picture
> > of what you have and I will send you one of the Eisentraut.
>
>
>
> this is in or around Alamo, Ca
> it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial > interests
>
>
>
> I seen this frame Same as one on CR web site except sans paint Good > shape
>
> Same seller had a and prehaps still has a repainted by D & D 70's > complete Bob Jackson and a later Gios
>
> Charles Nighbor
>
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 00:03:27 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> From: wspokes <wspokes@penn.com>
> To: classicrendezvous <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Happy Classic NEW YEAR
> Message-ID:
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>
>
> Happy New Year to all!!!!!
>
> Walt Skrzypek
> Falls Creek, Pa
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 21:04:56 -0800 (PST)
> From: r cielec <teaat4p@yahoo.com>
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]WTB: Weinmann CP Front Spacer
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> Ahoy !
>
> This is the spacer between the cp brake assy. and the fork crown.
> Spacer is square, front of spacer is flat to mate with brake assy. and
> rear of spacer is concave to mate with convex of fork crown. I wish to
> avoid the tedious making of one from a bar of aluminum.
>
> Anyone have one for sale ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Richard Cielec
> Chicago, Illinois
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 21:05:37 -0800
> From: "charles nighbor" <cnighbor@pacbell.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Bob Jackson FS
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> http://www.craigslist.org > east bay > bicycles > 56cm Bob Jackson Restored > Vintage Road Bike
> last modified: Fri, 31 Dec 11:22 PST
> please flag with care : [miscategorized] [prohibited] [spam]
> > [discussion] [best of]
>
> email this posting to a friend
>
>
> 56cm Bob Jackson Restored Vintage Road Bike
>
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> Reply to: vintagemasi@earthlink.net
> Date: 2004-12-31, 11:22AM PST
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For sale is freshly restored 56cm, or 22 ½" 1979 Bob Jackson Nouvo > Olympus .
>
> Lets start with the Frame. The Frame was just recently re-sprayed and > decaled by D&D Cycles in San Lorenzo, Ca. . The frame measures 56cm > center to center or 22 ½", 56 ½ cm Center to Top. The Top tube is > 56cm Center to Center. The stnadover height is 32 ½". It looks > stunning! The frame is a 1979-1980. Included is the original receipt
> for > the frame (purchased in England) and local shop receipts for most of
> the > parts. Also for sale is a beautiful restored 60cm Gios Torino. Have a > bike needs restoring? Have a classic for sale? E-mail me.
>
>
> . Brakeset: Campagnolo Nouvo Record . Complete with original hoods in > good shape.
> . Wheels: The Hubs are Campagnolo Nouvo record. The hubs are not the > original ones but are period correct. They have been hand polished and
> > look quite nice. The rims are: Mavic 36 hole front with a MA40, a the > rear is 32 hole with a Reflex Sup, although not a matched pair they
> are > both anodized and look just fine. I have the matching 32 hole front > hub-just ask, and it is yours.
> . Derailleurs: Both the front and rear are Campagnolo Nouvo Record,
> the > rear is date stamped 1979. The gear change levers are also Campy.
> . Bars and Stem: Both the Bars and Stem are Cinelli . The bars have
> the > old shield logo, model 66-38. . The stem has the old oval logo.
> . Crankset and Bottom Bracket: The cranks are Campagnolo Nouvo Record.
> > The 170mm crank arms have been polished . The cranks have a diamond
> with > and "8" in them dating them as 1978. The rings(53-42) have also been > polished. Bottom bracket is a Phil Wood.
> . Seatpost and Saddle: The seatpost is a SR, 27.2 . Easy to find part
> if > you want to go all Campy. The saddle is a classic Leather Brooks in
> good > condition.
>
> . Pedals and Headset: Hattaswan from Japan headset. Nice chrome Campy > copy-I have never installed one but have to admit I was impressed how > smooth and good it looks. Pedals are not included.
>
> . Misc: The cable housing used was classic Campy gray, the derailleur > cables used were braided stainless. .
>
> If you have any additional questions please do not hesitate to ask. > Price $1350.
>
> Call John at 925-935-9034 or e-mail vintagemasi@earthlink.net
>
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> I seen this Jackson Painting by D & D very nice
> Not the seller
> Charles Nighbor
> Walnut Creek, CA
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> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 08:00:09 +0100
> From: Matteo Brandi <bees.bfg@tin.it>
> To: <nickzz@mindspring.com>, cr list <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]That Perfect Find for More than one to ENJOY!
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> Zatester wrote:
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> I was at first hesitant about mentioning this scenerio, but here is
> another
> twist on the parting out issue.
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> Let's say you're aimlessly tooling around and by chance you stumble
> upon a
> vintage bicycle. It immediately
> catches your eye because of the lugs, Nuovo Record Campagnolo gear,
> Brooks
> saddle, and such. Then
> upon closer examination the frame is either too large or too small for
> you
> to ride comfortably. The frame is
> pretty much a standard production model from the bike boom days. Rats;
> what
> do you do? Walk away and
> forget about it or maybe a light bulb goes off in your mind and....
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> YES ... on second thought you buy it and begin to explore the
> possibilities. I know a guy down the street who has
> been looking for a lightweight frame to hang some of his old racing day
> components on. Give him a call and he's
> good to go for the frame. Another friend has been searching for the
> Brooks
> saddle to complete his Paramount
> restoration. Call him and he is thrilled to have his pride and joy
> back to
> spec. Another friend; across town: has been
> looking for a 120mm flat QR high flanged hubset for tubulars with 36
> spokes. You know he can't get to
> your house fast enough to pick them up and even brings his bike to try
> them
> on a short ride.
>
> Already this bicycle is bringing great pleasure and enjoyment to the
> lightweight enthusiasts involved and will continue
> to do so for a long time down the road. One guy,who fit the
> frame,could have
> bought it and rode it as is. Or one guy could
> buy it and share the pleasure with several others.
>
> Nick Zatezalo
> Atlanta,Ga
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> I say,bravo Zate!I think i ve parted one bike only and early colango
> super,while i was living in Fairfax.Didnt reach the reserve twice,and
> it was
> full campy,with mad pantoing,si parted it out,and sure i made some
> people
> happy!Somebody needed the seatpost,somebody else the headset,some
> other the
> panto levers and so on....people still thank me for those parts!
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> Happy new year!
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> Matteo "hic!" Brandi FIrenze Italy
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> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 01:57:33 -0800
> From: "Dan Christopherson" <danlchris@hotmail.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]WTB: Weinmann CP Front Spacer
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> Richard Cielec wrote:
>> This is the spacer between the cp brake assy. and the fork crown. > Spacer
>> is square, front of spacer is flat to mate with brake assy. and rear
>> of >
>> spacer is concave to mate with convex of fork crown. I wish to avoid > the
>> tedious making of one from a bar of aluminum.
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>> Anyone have one for sale ?
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> Most LBS's (local bike shops) have a gazillion. If you can't find one,
> > give me your address, I'll send one or more.
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> Dan Christopherson
> Lopez Island WA
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> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 07:28:05 -0500
> From: "Eric Elman" <tr4play@cox.net>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]FS: NOS Sugino Chainwheels
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> References: <41D4CB5C.9000406@erols.com>
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> Selling two sets of NOS Sugino chainrings. 130bcd x 3/32" x 53/42t.
> No box
> or packaging but brand new condition. $45 includes shipping in conti
> US.
> By both sets for $80 including shipping.
>
> Happy, Healthy New Year to all on this wonderful list,
>
> Eric Elman
> Somers, CT
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> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:52:50 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Michael Butler <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: CR Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR] Andre Bertin
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> In 1949 Albert Ramon won the 163 mile Paris-Tours in 6 hours 3
> minutes. Riding a Andre Bertin C36 Racing Type Super Professional
> cycle.
> Nice fact for all you Bertin aficionados.
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>
> Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not
> still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
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