So you've accurately measured the stopping distances of various brakes under identical conditions and compared them??? No one ever died because they had Record sidepulls on their bike instead of something else, to my knowledge. In 30 years, I've never wished for more braking capacity than properly set up Record brakes. If a wheel locks up too easily, you've got a bad brake design. As a public service to all, I would like to announce that I am now accepting vintage Record sidepull brakesets for proper disposal (preferably NOS and with the early "no-name" style calipers, but OK, in the name of safety, I'll take any of them) . Please send them shipping prepaid, Priority Mail or EMS is best! :-) Greg Parker Dexter, Michigan
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:26:22 -0500 From: "Roman Stankus" <rstankus@mindspring.com> To: "'Kurt Sperry'" <haxixe@gmail.com>, "'KO Kevin'" <kko@ci.springfield.or.us> Cc: 'Mr Donald W Gillies' <donald_gillies@yahoo.com> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: RE: [CR]RE: Was: Retro cool then but not so cool now, Now: Campysidepulls
All I can say is that all you have to do is try the new brakes - there's no comparison - the new brakes work worlds better. I have one KOF bike with modern campy gear and 5 on topic old ones. I feel much more secure and safer on the modern stuff. The stopping distance is significantly shorter and braking pressure required is significantly less and much more controlled. I've even put some modern centaur calipers on my vintage bike I ride the most - again for safety purposes. They work fine with non aero NR/SR levers. I've always liked the looks of SR/NR brakes but a number of close calls this past year at speed have convinced me that my health is more precious than my vanity - at least to this extent. When moving quickly in a pack with others with better braking systems, quick stops can be scary. New rims make a difference also - but only my KOF bike has those. One problem with dual pivot rear brakes I've found is that they can sometimes be too strong and I've locked up my rear wheel more often than I wish with the modern rear brake. I recently replaced the modern rear dual pivot with a modern rear single pivot to reduce this problem. Others must have had this same problem for campy to offer this as an improvement to their line of brakes.
Roman Stankus - trying to stay intact in Atlanta, Ga.
-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Sperry Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:28 AM To: KO Kevin Cc: Mr Donald W Gillies; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]RE: Was: Retro cool then but not so cool now, Now: Campysidepulls
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:13:18 -0800, KO Kevin <kko@ci.springfield.or.us>
wrote:
> Thanks, Don. You know, I can't understand the problem folks seem to
> have with Campy sidepulls.
Amen. I can lock either wheel with a well set-up Campagnolo sidepull brake at will with good pads. What more can a brake do?
Kurt Sperry
Bellingham WA