RE: [CR]Items FS/eBay: Experiment in Parting Out

(Example: Framebuilders:Jack Taylor)

From: "David Bilenkey" <dbilenkey@sympatico.ca>
To: "'Thomas Adams'" <thomasthomasa@yahoo.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: RE: [CR]Items FS/eBay: Experiment in Parting Out
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:38:33 -0500
In-Reply-To: <20050112114345.72468.qmail@web51103.mail.yahoo.com>


And I suspect that you could have reaped even more $$ if the auctions were listed as shipping internationally.

I can't count the number of times I have come across auctions that have closed, for way less than I'd have paid, on items that I have been actively looking for, but haven't come up in my searches because the seller lists them as only shipping within the US.

Given that all the shipping, duties and taxes are the buyer's responsibility, I just can't understand why a seller would want to omit the rest of the world's auction players. Kind of defeats the purpose of putting it on eBay it would seem.

David Bilenkey Ottawa, Ontario, Canada


> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of
> Thomas Adams
> Sent: January 12, 2005 6:44 AM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Items FS/eBay: Experiment in Parting Out
>
>
> As a follow up to the previous discussion, the parted out
> Paramount closed last night. The bits and pieces brought in
> $857.56, probably at least $200-$300 more than the complete
> bike would have brought. The NR triple crank went for
> $203.52, the frame for $266.51 and the wheels for $119.50.
> The Torpado/Galli, with two days to go, isn't showing much
> life so far. Results can be seen by going to Steve's
> seller's page (link below), and looking at completed items.
>
> Thanks to everyone who bid.
>
> Tom Adams, Shrewsbury NJ
>
> Thomas Adams <thomasthomasa@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If you're not sick to death over the debate regarding the
> propriety of parting out a "classic" bike, consider, if you
> will, an eBay experiment I am conducting featuring the frames
> and parts of my former Paramount and Torpado. Steve Willis is
> graciously hosting the sales for me out of the kindness of
> his heart, and a reasonable expectation that funds raised by
> the sales will be spent in his shop. With a Goodrich KOF
> project percolating away on the frozen tundra, I need to
> maximize revenues. Neither bike came to me as a complete
> original bike, so I decided to break them up.
>
> The Paramount frame had been a '74 P10 that I had been
> building up as a P15 configuration. It had a Campy triple NR
> crank and a proper re badged Shimano Crane GS rear mech along
> with Wienmann CPs, Campy HF hubs and headset. But because I
> had laced the hubs to modern CR 18 rims (27 inch, to boot),
> and didn't have proper pedals, Cinelli bars or a stem, we
> agreed it was appropriate to part out the bike.
>
> Likewise the Torpado/Galli bike. It had a 80% complete Galli
> group, the non Galli parts consisting of a Stronglight
> headset, Miche BB, Shimano gear levers and Sun rims, and it
> even had 175 mm cranks. It came to me as a bare frame.
>
> For those who think there's lost more dough in parting out
> bikes, I'd have to say not so, so far. Of course there are 4
> days left to go, but the only items drawing interest are the
> Campy triple crank and the Brooks saddle. Otherwise,
> everything sits at 0 bids or right around the opening amount.
> Of course Galli isn't as desirable as Campy (except when I'm
> bidding) so maybe I shouldn't be surprised. Neither frame has
> drawn a bid, but then they are both 62cm+. But at least I
> have two empty spots in the bike storage racks now.
>
> BTW, if anyone is interested, both frames are fine riders.
> And yes, I offered both bikes to the list before going to eBay.
>
> Seller ID smwillis
>
>
> Curt Goodrich and I profit from any sales. But Steve and Curt
> is in no way responsible for this philistine chasing of
> profits, except Curt indirectly by making such nice bikes
> that I had to have one.
>
> Tom (Hey, Curt, how are we doing?) Adams, Shrewsbury NJ