How many times have I heard when checking out a bicycle for sale in person or on an eBay ad , "Just a little touch up paint and frame will be good has new". Even when paint has more chips scrapes, dings than I willing to count. Looking at a bunch of nice collectable bikes (25 + -) in Berkeley I encountered the same line. Wish I could believe it. Email me for list of sellers bikes in Berkeley. Some very interesting Charles Nighbor Preparing ground work for 2004 US taxes Walnut Creek, CA