Re: Workmanship; was: Re: [CR] Most Collectable Japanese Bikes ??

(Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique)

From: <"richardsachs@juno.com">
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:44:53 GMT
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: Workmanship; was: Re: [CR] Most Collectable Japanese Bikes ??


...and of brush strokes on an oil painting? the fact of the matter is the work also has to be judged on the duration and experience of the atelier, not simply on one aspect of one frame. if you read about the so-called "famous" names, there is more to the story than simply the "filing". isn't this when words like "gestalt" get used?
e-RICHIE
chester, ct


-- Louis Schulman wrote:


After close study of the Nagawawa photographs, and the comments of the owners of famous Italian bikes, my opinion would be that the superbe workmanship is no better than on my 1973 Ron Cooper or my 1965 Reg Collard shop-built Holdsworth Italia. In fact, the English bikes might be better (I think I see file marks on the Nagasawa crown).

Of course, these English bikes were the product of one-man shops, just like the present American and Japanese KOF builders. Evidently, most Italian bikes were just not built to this standard.

Really, the quality of the Italian makers seems to be overblown. Just mho.

Louis (trying to separate fact from fiction) Schulman Still chill Tampa, Florida

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here bay-bee: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bobbesrs/album?.dir=5ec9&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.d one=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bobbesrs/my_photos e-RICHIE

Damn. The visible workmanship on that Nagasawa makes my beloved Cinelli look like crap by comparison. Awesome.