I bought fifty pairs of Cinelli 64/66s direct from Cinelli back in the late eighties and most of them were very poorly made. The 'hooks' were far from being in the same plane and they were just not the same shape as previous ones. We sent them all back to Cinelli. Incidentally they were delivered to us direct from Cinelli in boxes marked "Made in Taiwan". Mike Barry. Bicycle Specialties, Toronto.