[CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 25, Issue 150

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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:58:27 -0500
Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 25, Issue 150

Don- If you need 24" fenders give me a call. Andy.


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> 1. Re: British Path Racer Rear Spacing??? (Michael Butler)
> 2. introduction and a dumb fender question
> 3. MASI technology ... (Donald Gillies)
> 4. looking for tubulars.
> 5. Re: Using shoe polish on leather saddles? (Donald Gillies)
> 6. Cuevas/Argentina (Ken Wehrenberg)
> 7. Re: Seatpost size for a 1960 Ideor, Columbus tubing
> (john jorgensen)
> 8. Re: Using shoe polish on leather saddles?
> (Jerome & Elizabeth Moos)
> 9. Re: MASI technology ... (John Thompson)
> 10. Re: introduction and a dumb fender question (Dan Kehew)
> 11. Re: Using shoe polish on leather saddles? (John Thompson)
> 12. Re: MASI technology ... (Louis Schulman)
> 13. Re: Re: Seatpost size for a 1960 Ideor, Columbus tubing
> (Peter Jourdain)
> 14. introduction and help with ID Raleigh Clubman (james black)
> 15. Merckx: Intime (Steven L. Sheffield)
> 16. Re: introduction and help with ID Raleigh Clubman (P.C. Kohler)
> 17. Re: Merckx: Intime (David Patrick)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:14:51 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Michael Butler <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: CR Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]British Path Racer Rear Spacing???
> Message-ID: <20050130201451.97856.qmail@web25310.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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> In answer to Scott's question on 1950's British path racing rear end spacing. It is 120 mill. Have checked my 1954 Stuart Purves No.1, 51 Ephgrave lugless, 52 Claud Butler International Sprint, Hetchins VM Superb and my favourite Don Farrell 1962 Herne Hill Special all are road-track or path models. All identically spaced spaced at 120mm.
> Our Imperial axles are 9mm as near as damn it.
>
>
>
> Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:17:32 EST
> From: DonWalkerCycles@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]introduction and a dumb fender question
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> Howdy Ya'll,
>
> For those who dont know me on this list, as this is my first posting, I am
> Don Walker, a framebuilder living in Hewitt, TX ( a suburb of Waco) and also the
> promoter of the NAHBS.
> I am getting involved in the CR list to satisfy my own need for knowledge on
> the "classics".
> My first bike was a Windsor Carrera Sport, which costed all of $249 in 1980
> when i first started riding at the age of 14. It took me almost two years of
> racing that POS touring bike to convice pops I needed a better ride. Enter my
> Holdsworth Road model. I loved that bike, and owned it until I was 23. I started
> building frames at 25.
>
> Anyhow, enough about me. I am getting ready to build a classic lugged
> (Newvex) frame, and believe it or not, it will be my first fully lugged frame. I have
> always built fillet brezed and used some lugged BB shells. This bike
> absolutley MUST be special in every way, as I am building it for my Fiance as a
> wedding present. I am wanting to put fenders on it as a little "something extra" for
> classic styling for what I feel is a "classic gal". So, my question is this,
> what are the best classy fenders available?? Where can I find them?
> Any/all help is appreciated! I had seen some really nice looking polished
> wooden ones, but i forgot where I saw them...little help?
>
> Thanks and enjoy whats left of your weekend!
>
> Don Walker
> donwalkercycles.com
> handmadebicycleshow.com
> Hewitt, TX
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:54:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]MASI technology ...
> Message-ID: <200501302054.MAA26221@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
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> Message: 3
>
> What I like best about this bicycle is the advanced technology brake
> levers. You'd never see something like this on a Raleigh Pro or a
> Schwinn Paramount or even a Colnago ... *grin* ...
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
> - Don Gillies
> San Diego, CA
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:06:21 -0500
> From: <chuck1sd@cox.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]looking for tubulars.
> Message-ID: <20050130210620.TSZF17110.fed1rmmtao11.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>
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> Hi all,
> I am trying to track down either a single or a set of Vittoria Corsa CX Squadre Professional tubulars for a restoration. If anyone knows a source, could you pass it along to me.
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck Schlesinger
> San Diego, CA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:11:01 -0800 (PST)
> From: Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Using shoe polish on leather saddles?
> Message-ID: <200501302111.NAA26832@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
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>
> Well, Kiwi sells two kinds of shoe-polish leather conditioner. One is
> a saddle soap and the other is neutral shoe polish without cleaning
> agents.
>
> I bought some of the clear neutral shoe polish at Target ($2.29 for
> 28g) and tried it out on my brooks saddles. Compared to Proofide, the
> neutral polish leaves a dull (not shiny) lustre on the saddle but it
> seems to work just fine. Now that they've jacked up the price of
> Proofide, watered down that stuff, and they've shrank the tin size
> ($10 for 40g), it's at least 3x cheaper than Proofide and the leather
> seems just as happy with Kiwi neutral polish as it does with Proofide.
>
> - Don Gillies
> San Diego, CA
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:17:00 -0600
> From: Ken Wehrenberg <wnwires@htc.net>
> To: JohnThompson@new.rr.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR] Cuevas/Argentina
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> Ah, the passing of a master indeed. My Frejus track bike has some
> updating/modifications by him.
>
> Even though I've never been in the NYC area, it is nice to hear the
> stories of the shops I would read about in the back ads of Bicycling!
> back then.
>
> Regarding Argentinian components, my Vitus came thru Mike Fraysee's
> importation and had a 25.0 seat post that was a Campy 2 bolt knock-off,
> pantographed VITUS and a very small "Argentina" on it.
>
> Ken Wehrenberg, Hermann, MO
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:30:59 -0800
> From: john jorgensen <designzero@earthlink.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Re: Seatpost size for a 1960 Ideor, Columbus tubing
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> Peter Jourdain asked a few days ago about seat post size for a Ideor Asso
> with Columbus Tubing.
>
> Finally got an answer from my brother who has one, his is a 1958 53cm (ctc)
> example, which may make a difference.
>
> His is 26.8mm!
>
> Perhaps lighter gauge tubing in the smaller sizes?
>
> The Campagnolo headset and seat post are original to the bike, all else was
> updated over 30 years ago.
>
> John Jorgensen
> Palos Verdes Ca
>
> Where I advised him the headset is the majority of value of his bike.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:26:39 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> To: Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Using shoe polish on leather saddles?
> Message-ID: <20050130212639.75456.qmail@web81005.mail.yahoo.com>
> In-Reply-To: <200501302111.NAA26832@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
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> You do not want shoe polish, which is temporary, but "shoe dye" which is permanent and, once dry, does not rub off on shorts. Shoe dye is available at almost any shoe repair shop, usually in a selection of colors, but nearly always available in black. This is the best way to restore worn areas of a black leather saddles. Also good for restoring leather toe straps or dyeing straps a hard to find color (like green for my green and gold Arthur Caygill).
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
>
> Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca> wrote:
> Well, Kiwi sells two kinds of shoe-polish leather conditioner. One is
> a saddle soap and the other is neutral shoe polish without cleaning
> agents.
>
> I bought some of the clear neutral shoe polish at Target ($2.29 for
> 28g) and tried it out on my brooks saddles. Compared to Proofide, the
> neutral polish leaves a dull (not shiny) lustre on the saddle but it
> seems to work just fine. Now that they've jacked up the price of
> Proofide, watered down that stuff, and they've shrank the tin size
> ($10 for 40g), it's at least 3x cheaper than Proofide and the leather
> seems just as happy with Kiwi neutral polish as it does with Proofide.
>
> - Don Gillies
> San Diego, CA
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:44:22 -0600
> From: John Thompson <JohnThompson@new.rr.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]MASI technology ...
> Message-ID: <41FD5536.1080704@new.rr.com>
> In-Reply-To: <200501302054.MAA26221@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
> References: <200501302054.MAA26221@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
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>
> Donald Gillies wrote:
>
> > What I like best about this bicycle is the advanced technology brake
> > levers. You'd never see something like this on a Raleigh Pro or a
> > Schwinn Paramount or even a Colnago ... *grin* ...
>
> Y'know what, Don? I think I've got a set of them if you're interested.
> You'll have to supply your own Campy "globe" hoods, though...
>
> --
> John (john@os2.dhs.org)
> Appleton WI USA
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:44:42 -0800
> From: Dan Kehew <dan.kehew@gmail.com>
> To: "DonWalkerCycles@aol.com" <DonWalkerCycles@aol.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]introduction and a dumb fender question
> Message-ID: <8c14bd1405013013443675dba6@mail.gmail.com>
> In-Reply-To: <19d.2e27f79e.2f2e9adc@aol.com>
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> Message: 10
>
> Hi Don --
>
> If you've got the same wood fenders in mind, you're looking for:
>
> http://www.rivercitybicycles.com
>
> They got a picture into Bicycling sometime last year ... that's when I
> saved the site's address (something for use after my big lottery win,
> which is due any day now). If you find other options, let me know!
>
> Dan (wishful thinking) Kehew
> Davis, CA
>
> > Anyhow, enough about me. I am getting ready to build a classic lugged
> > (Newvex) frame, and believe it or not, it will be my first fully lugged frame. I have
> > always built fillet brezed and used some lugged BB shells. This bike
> > absolutley MUST be special in every way, as I am building it for my Fiance as a
> > wedding present. I am wanting to put fenders on it as a little "something extra" for
> > classic styling for what I feel is a "classic gal". So, my question is this,
> > what are the best classy fenders available?? Where can I find them?
> > Any/all help is appreciated! I had seen some really nice looking polished
> > wooden ones, but i forgot where I saw them...little help?
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:46:33 -0600
> From: John Thompson <JohnThompson@new.rr.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Using shoe polish on leather saddles?
> Message-ID: <41FD55B9.8060200@new.rr.com>
> In-Reply-To: <200501302111.NAA26832@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
> References: <200501302111.NAA26832@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
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>
> Donald Gillies wrote:
>
> > Well, Kiwi sells two kinds of shoe-polish leather conditioner. One is
> > a saddle soap and the other is neutral shoe polish without cleaning
> > agents.
> >
> > I bought some of the clear neutral shoe polish at Target ($2.29 for
> > 28g) and tried it out on my brooks saddles. Compared to Proofide, the
> > neutral polish leaves a dull (not shiny) lustre on the saddle but it
> > seems to work just fine. Now that they've jacked up the price of
> > Proofide, watered down that stuff, and they've shrank the tin size
> > ($10 for 40g), it's at least 3x cheaper than Proofide and the leather
> > seems just as happy with Kiwi neutral polish as it does with Proofide.
>
> Not only that, but you can fill your old Proofhide can from the Kiwi can
> and no one will know...
>
> --
> John (john@os2.dhs.org)
> Appleton WI USA
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:48:00 -0500
> From: Louis Schulman <louiss@gate.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]MASI technology ...
> Message-ID: <41FD5610.2040209@gate.net>
> In-Reply-To: <200501302054.MAA26221@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
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>
> My favorite feature is that the bicycle appears to have been stored
> under water. Of course, Masis had that advanced secret internal
> water-proofing technology, so that they actually benefited from such
> treatment. It was the same technology used by Italian submarine makers.
> Oops, I have just been advised that "Italian submarines" are
> sandwiches, not underwater craft. My mistake.
>
> Louis Schulman
> Tampa, Florida (where thankfully nobody talks about Masis)
>
>
>
> Donald Gillies wrote:
> > What I like best about this bicycle is the advanced technology brake
> > levers. You'd never see something like this on a Raleigh Pro or a
> > Schwinn Paramount or even a Colnago ... *grin* ...
> >
> > http://ebay.com/<blah>
> >
> > - Don Gillies
> > San Diego, CA
> > _______________________________________________
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:15:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: Peter Jourdain <pjourdain@yahoo.com>
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Cc: john jorgensen <designzero@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Seatpost size for a 1960 Ideor, Columbus tubing
> Message-ID: <20050130221537.71528.qmail@web40913.mail.yahoo.com>
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> Hi, John, All--
>
> Thanks so much for the response, and for taking the
> trouble to check with your brother regarding his Ideor
> frameset. I genuinely appreciate it. It's very
> curious, the 26.8 number, because the seller of the
> frameset, an Italian bike aficionado, also told me it
> is was 26.8, and so I bought a Campy seatpost in that
> size almost immediately.
>
> Let me tell you, after trying to force the thing into
> the seat tube, even heavily greased, and succeeding
> only in gouging up the post and (I feared) being on
> the verge of splitting the tubing itself, I stopped.
>
> I wonder if the two years difference in model years
> between your brother's bike and mine might be enough
> to account for a difference in seattube diameter. The
> fellow who sold me the frameset also owned a '57, and
> his statement as to the seatpost size on mine might
> have based on his experience with the earlier
> frameset. All I know is, 26.8 into mine won't go, and
> even 26.2 is going to require a level of muscle I'm
> hesitant to apply. Hmmm....
>
> Ideor offered the Asso in I think five different model
> levels, relating primarily to coponent mixes. Except
> for the lowest level model, which used Mannesmann
> tubing, they all used Columbus, including mine, the
> lower-mid-level Asso "Olimpic." The top "Professional"
> model had a Campy cotterless chainset and Sport
> headset, etc., the lower models had Magistroni
> cottered chainsets and Ideor-branded Magistroni
> headsets. But as I say, all tubing except for the
> model below mine was Columbus.
>
> So either the diameter of the tubing changed over the
> course of a couple of years, or it changed model to
> model, or perhaps even from frame size to frame size?
> You say your brother's bike is a 53cm. Mine is a 64cm.
> Would a narrower diameter tubing make for a stiffer
> frame at the larger size? I would have thought the
> opposite. I'm delving into territory I know almost
> nothing about here.
>
> I guess I have to keep the question open...
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Peter
>
> Peter Jourdain
> Whitewater, Wisconsin
>
>
>
> --- john jorgensen <designzero@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Peter Jourdain asked a few days ago about seat post
> > size for a Ideor Asso
> > with Columbus Tubing.
> >
> > Finally got an answer from my brother who has one,
> > his is a 1958 53cm (ctc)
> > example, which may make a difference.
> >
> > His is 26.8mm!
> >
> > Perhaps lighter gauge tubing in the smaller sizes?
> >
> > The Campagnolo headset and seat post are original
> > to the bike, all else was
> > updated over 30 years ago.
> >
> > John Jorgensen
> > Palos Verdes Ca
> >
> > Where I advised him the headset is the majority of
> > value of his bike.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Classicrendezvous mailing list
> > Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >
> http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous
> >
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:18:58 -0800
> From: "james black" <jablack@ucla.edu>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]introduction and help with ID Raleigh Clubman
> Message-ID: <00cb01c50719$b212a3b0$e74bfea9@ARCHIBURGER>
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> Greetings:
>
> First, I'm new to the list and I'll introduce myself: my name is James
> Black, I'm an architecture student at UCLA, and ride bikes. I've been
> reading the iBOB list for some years now. My oldest bike is a 1982 Nishiki
> International, fully tricked out with front dynohub and Sachs 5-speed
> internal gear hub. I also have a fixed gear Swift Folder and a Karate
> Monkey mountain bike.
>
> Now, the fun part: one of my roommates needed a bike, and we went and found
> one at an antique/flea market type store here in LA. Picked up cheap, I
> didn't really know what it was, but now I'm thinking it's a Raleigh Clubman,
> seeming quite similar to the 1950-1951 Clubman models which I saw described
> on this page:
>
> http://retroraleighs.com/clubman-kohler.html
>
> Most of the parts are circa 1980 Japanese, with 27" Mavic Module E rims, and
> I'm entirely prepared to believe that none of the parts are original, even
> though the unhealthy non-drive crank is labelled Raleigh and is probably of
> Japanese forging. The serial number has the format BA236xx (where "xx"
> equals two integers). Another page (
> http://oldroads.com/ra_sn.asp )suggests that this serial number, if indeed a
> Raleigh number, would be from the 1960s, although everything else I see on
> the bike seems consistent with the 1950-51 Clubman.
>
> I've put a bunch of pictures on the web here:
>
> http://james.architectureburger.com/cycle/club.html
>
> If anyone can help with identifying this bike, I'd appreciate it. I'm
> already jealous that it's my roommate's and not mine, but at least I'll get
> to look at it (and wrench on it, fortunately or unfortunately).
>
> Thanks,
>
> James Black
> Los Angeles, CA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:41:29 -0700
> From: "Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com>
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Merckx: Intime
> Message-ID: <BE22B0A9.D9E4%stevens@veloworks.com>
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>
>
> Just received my copy of Merckx: Intime, by Phillippe Brunel ... And I
> cannot recommend this book highly enough. Mostly photos of his career with
> a few stories. Text is in French, but it is well worth it, even if you
> don't read the language:
>
> Available from Amazon.fr for under 47.50 Euros, plus shipping:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3nagh
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Steven L. Sheffield
> stevens at veloworks dot com
> veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net
> bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
> ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
> aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
> double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [foreword] slash
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:09:56 -0500
> From: "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@starpower.net>
> To: "james black" <jablack@ucla.edu>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]introduction and help with ID Raleigh Clubman
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> From: "james black" <jablack@ucla.edu>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 5:18 PM
> Subject: [CR]introduction and help with ID Raleigh Clubman
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>
> > Greetings:
> >
> > First, I'm new to the list and I'll introduce myself: my name is James
> > Black, I'm an architecture student at UCLA, and ride bikes.
>
>
> No doubt about it... she's a Clubman dating from 1950-51. And no doubt,
> there's nothing original on her in the way of components. That's a pity but
> the frame looks sound, even the chome would clean up. And its all Reynolds
> 531. Amazing to see her fitted out with these "new" components.
>
> And I am at my limit of 4 CR postings today.. it must be cold and snowy
> here. And it is.
>
> Peter Kohler
> Washington DC USA
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> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:35:56 -0800 (PST)
> From: David Patrick <patrick-ajdb@sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com>,
> Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Merckx: Intime
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> This is the book I mentioned a week or so ago, although I have the Dutch version entitled: "Merckx: Mens & Mythe". This book is indeed an excellent photo essay of his cycling career, with numerous black & white pics.
>
> Also worth a mention is that Eddy Merckx Bicycles has a limited edition 2005 calendar available this year. This calendar is very large and features numerous black & white photos from Eddy's career. Although my copy was provided thru the Netherlands, I believe Gita (the Merckx importer in the U.S.) has 400-500 copies available total, with orders being taken on the Gita website.
>
>
> Dave Patrick
> Chelsea, Michigan
>
> "Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com> wrote:
>
>
> Just received my copy of Merckx: Intime, by Phillippe Brunel ... And I
> cannot recommend this book highly enough. Mostly photos of his career with
> a few stories. Text is in French, but it is well worth it, even if you
> don't read the language:
>
> Available from Amazon.fr for under 47.50 Euros, plus shipping:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3nagh
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