Re: [CR]Re: Huret "Jubilee" -- additional questions

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Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:19:56 -0600
From: "John Thompson" <JohnThompson@new.rr.com>
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Huret "Jubilee" -- additional questions
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Steve Neago wrote:
> Hello Peter, regarding:
>
> <<Are the following statements correct? --- 60's-early 70's French rear
> derailleurs had a smooth rear derailleur hanger "bolt" which slid into an
> unthreaded hanger on the frame, or an unthreaded hanger plate, and a lock
> bolt/nut secured the der in place from the back of the hanger.
> ("Simplex-style".)>>
>
> Yes the Jubilees have a hanger bolt that can screw into either a derailleur
> hanger on the frame or attach by a Huret derailleur mounting bracket that is
> later bolted onto the frame. Please note, Jubilee derailleurs were not made
> to directly fit a Campy dropout, a derailleur mounting bracket must be used.
> The way to tell is if a Huret dropout is used where they have an etched
> Huret on the outer dropout side. Jubilees were commonly used on mid-high
> end racing bikes such as Raleigh Competition, Rene Herse, etc. Jubilee
> derailleurs do not work well with Campy dropouts because the mounting
> position for the angle of the derailleur is wrong. I have heard of past
> owners using a dremel grinder to "fix" this, but it sounds too risky to
> me...

Here's a couple pictures of the bracket "in action" as it were with my Huret Success Ti:

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/huret-rd01.jpg http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/huret-rd02.jpg

Note: this is one of the "fancy" brackets, with an angle adjusting screw; a non-adjustable version was also available. This was simply a slotted washer (to mate with tabs on the der body) with a bent tab at the proper location to hold the unit at the appropriate angle:

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/huret-washer.jpg

These little do-hickies (both adjustable and non-adjustable) have traditionally been the most difficult pieces to find, in my experience. I suspect one could fabricate a suitable replacement should it be necessary.

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-John "a picture is worth a thousand words" Thompson (john@os2.dhs.org)
    Appleton WI USA