[CR]RE: Huret Jubilee mounting and dropouts

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From: <velorosso@charter.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:44:39 -0800
Subject: [CR]RE: Huret Jubilee mounting and dropouts

Some of my observations with Huret rear derailleurs and dropouts:

I've seen two styles of Huret forged dropouts. One on early 1970's Raleigh Competitions have a tab at the 6 o'clock position and a threaded hole. The matching Jubilee threads in and I believe the body rests against the tab.

The other Huret dropout is found on my 1971 Schwinn Sports Tourer with slots on the hanger at the 9 and 3 o'clock positions. The Shimano Crane (or Schwinn LeTour) derailleur seems suited to this, though the bike originally came with Campagnolo GT paperweight.

Also had a circa 1974 Motobecane Grand Jubile (yes with only one "e") with Campagnolo 1010 rear drops. The Jubilee derailleur had a little tab added on the mounting body adjacent to the mounting bolt so the derailleur would hang at the appropriate angle.

Lastly, have a DuoPar that came with two washers and mounting bolts. The washers fit over the mounting bolt and have tabs in different positions, one to fit Campagnolo dropouts, the other, I believe, would fit the Huret dropout as noted above on Raleigh Competitions.

Since I still have all three Huret derailleurs, the Sports Tourer and just came into a Jubilee-adorned Competition, I could more closely verify all the above if folks are interested.

<snip> Hello Peter, regarding:

<<Are the following statements correct? --- 60's-early 70's French rear derailleurs had a smooth rear derailleur hanger "bolt" which slid into an unthreaded hanger on the frame, or an unthreaded hanger plate, and a lock bolt/nut secured the der in place from the back of the hanger. ("Simplex-style".)>>

Yes the Jubilees have a hanger bolt that can screw into either a derailleur hanger on the frame or attach by a Huret derailleur mounting bracket that is later bolted onto the frame. Please note, Jubilee derailleurs were not made to directly fit a Campy dropout, a derailleur mounting bracket must be used. The way to tell is if a Huret dropout is used where they have an etched Huret on the outer dropout side. Jubilees were commonly used on mid-high end racing bikes such as Raleigh Competition, Rene Herse, etc. Jubilee derailleurs do not work well with Campy dropouts because the mounting position for the angle of the derailleur is wrong. I have heard of past owners using a dremel grinder to "fix" this, but it sounds too risky to me...

Regards, Steve Neago Cincinnati, OH

John Siemsen San Luis Obispo, CA