Re: [CR]Was: Reynolds Tubing, question about 531SL - Now: Tubing Chart

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:39:26 -0800
Subject: Re: [CR]Was: Reynolds Tubing, question about 531SL - Now: Tubing Chart
To: Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>
From: "Brandon Ives" <brandon@ivycycles.com>
In-Reply-To: <20050224121015.39065.qmail@web60401.mail.yahoo.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

On Thursday, Feb 24, 2005, at 04:10 US/Pacific, Raymond Dobbins wrote:
> and i have a couple of questions someone might have the answer to.
> 1. the tubeset weight is based on what size frame or lentgh of tube?

My browser mashes everything together at the end so I can't compare the weights to the ones found in the older Paterek Manual. Usually they will use a small, or "A" set. Sometimes they'll use a medium "B" tubeset.
> 2. columbus sl is listed twice. i believe the first sl is a typo,
> and should be kl - correct?

That would be my guess comparing the charts.
> 3. the listed tubeset weights do not include lug and bb shell
> weights, right?

Correct and most times they don't include the fork blades either. I always assume without blades unless noted otherwise.
> 4. i was told that i can tell if a frameset is made of record or kl
> by weighing it, but i'd have to know what the frameset weights for
> different frame sizes sizes are. is there a chart for that?

You can't tell the difference once the tubes are built into a frame. The listed difference between KL and Record is only 70 grams or about 4-5% of the total tube weight. The main weight from a frame comes from things like dropouts and the BB shell. With a little constructive filing and carving of the rest of the frame parts (lugs, bosses, etc) you can make a frame from KL that weighs as little or even less than Record. enjoy, Brandon"monkeyman"Ives Coeur d'Alene, ID.