Re: [CR]CB decal dates

(Example: Framebuilders:Norman Taylor)

Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:06:50 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Michael Butler" <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [CR]CB decal dates
To: CR Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <54695.10.250.10.1.1109772590.squirrel@sq03.pol.net>


CB Cycles listed the the Electron Claud Butler for the first time in their 1966 catalogue. You could buy either as a frame set or as a complete bicycle. It was their cheap entry model. I worked part-time as a schoolboy for Vic Butcher who owned Playland Cycles in Stevenage. He and Sudbury Cycles of Letchworth were the main agents for Holdsworth CB cycles in North Hertfordshire. Incidentally Claud Butler started up again in early 1960 he produced three frames which were only sold through Pride & Clarke in Stockwell South London. The frames were "Paris-Roubaix, "XV111 Olympiad" and the "Regency-Continental". This venture was very short lived due to the legal arguments over who owned the name. On Norman Kilgariffs wonderful Holdsworth website it states that re-start year as being C1963? There are adverts for these frames "CB Himself Frames" in early 1960 editions of Cycling. The London clubmen at the the time said that Claud was adamant that he had the right to use the name and he maintained that the receivers only sold three registered Claud Butler trade marks to Holdsworths which I think were the head badge, works seat-tube transfer and the script signature down-tube design transfers. This is why Claud reverted to the old style CB block letter track down-tube style transfers when he restarted making. Is it just a coincidence that immediately after this row over ownership that Holdsworth started using the CB block letter transfers for the first time since acquisition of the marque?

Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.