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From: "Mike Schmidt" <mdschmidt@patmedia.net>
To: <NortonMarg@aol.com>, <freitas1@pacbell.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Wool Jersey Gallery :: MONTELATICI
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:10:32 -0500
cc: EdLitton@earthlink.net

Stevan, Just checked my frame and it has the triangle cut outs with recessed holes fpr the brake bolts. I am thinking the frame is mid 70's based on your information. Mike Schmidt Stirling, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: NortonMarg@aol.com To: mdschmidt@patmedia.net ; freitas1@pacbell.net ; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Cc: EdLitton@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [CR]Wool Jersey Gallery :: MONTELATICI

In a message dated 3/22/05 1:56:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, mdschmidt@patmedia.net writes:

Bob, Way cool.

I have a frame that Matteo sold me that is w/o paint and hanging in my basement as my next project. What year is your frame?? Mike Schmidt Stirling, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Freitas" <freitas1@pacbell.net> To: "CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Cc: "STEVAN" <NortonMarg@aol.com>; "ED LITTON" <EdLitton@earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:13 AM Subject: [CR]Wool Jersey Gallery :: MONTELATICI

>Picked it up today from ED LITTONs and thought you would like to have a >look. > Was originally painted a medium blue which came off when I tried to >clean off some decal adhesive. > Plan is to build it all NR/CINELLI (of course) > BOB FREITAS > rainy MILL VALLEY,CA >http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/album42

Hi Mike,
    I documented all the frames that came through Ed's shop, in the unpainted state. One thing to look at is the style of lug, and if the little cut out is a diamond or a triangle. The diamond cut out frames are the latest ones I've seen, being set up for short reach brakes with recessed fasteners. My own frame has the triangle cut outs and is set for standard reach brakes with recessed fasteners. It is my opinion that, as these are Cinelli built frames and that Cinelli was an early adopter of "cutting edge" parts, these may be dated (at the earliest) by when the detail parts were first available. My best guess on mine is 1974 to 1976, making Bob's roughly 1977, or close to whenever short reach brakes were first available to the early adopters in Europe. I'm obviously open to any accurate information as to when these changes in parts were made.
    Stevan Thomas
    Alameda, CA