But don't ban all indexing shifters - the early Super Champions of long long ago were indexing - then that friction stuff came to rule the roost.
"All that is new come long ago..."
Mike Kone in Boulder CO
> If it's designed and built in 1983 or before it's in! Cinelli pedals and
\r?\n> walking under tall Eucalyptus trees might be widowmakers but that's a
\r?\n> personal choice. There were many unsuccessful things made that didn't stand
\r?\n> the test of time and are uncommon today. If some CR member has an item like
\r?\n> that, he/her can display it or use it for all to see and appreciate or
\r?\n> deride (couldn't resist ). Who the hell cares? Have fun, enjoy, kibbitz,
\r?\n> marvel, that's what it's all about.
\r?\n> Ted Ernst
\r?\n> Palos Verdes Estates, CA
\r?\n> ----- Original Message -----
\r?\n> From: "HM & SS Sachs"
\r?\n> To: "OROBOYZ" ; "ternst" ; "Classic
\r?\n> Rendezvous" ; "themaaslands"
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:54 PM
\r?\n> Subject: [CR]Re: staying On Topic...
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> > Herr Listmeister wrote and attaboy (verboten, yah?) -- :-)
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > << As I understand it, any equipment in production in 1983 is OK until was
\r?\n> > stopped. No click shifting, clip in pedals, stuff like that.
\r?\n> > Ted Ernst >>
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > You guys, listen to Ted! It's so simple! ++++++++++++++++++++++
\r?\n> > Although the infamous Cinelli M-71 "widowmaker" clipless pedal lived and
\r?\n> > died before the cut-off date, common sense suggests that both discussion
\r?\n> > of it and its use be strongly discouraged. Even the esteemed Mr.
\r?\n> > Maasland, who installed them on his trike, seems to have recognized some
\r?\n> > limitations of their charm in hilly country... :-)
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > Mostly in good fun, but I think I've ridden mine on the road for the last
\r?\n> > time. Ever.
\r?\n> >
\r?\n> > harvey sachs
\r?\n> > mcLean va