RE: [CR]Special Build Raleigh dating

(Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique)

Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:00:20 -0400
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
From: "George Allen" <jgallen@lexairinc.com>
Subject: RE: [CR]Special Build Raleigh dating
In-Reply-To: <114840-220054421184240516@M2W049.mail2web.com>
References: <114840-220054421184240516@M2W049.mail2web.com>


SB 2215 has no braze-ons under the top tube. It has braze-ons for the shift levers, a single water bottle on the down tube, cable guides on the bottom bracket and a cable housing stop on the chain stay. It has four slots in the underside of the bottom bracket. So the lack of braze-ons for cabling would make it a 1975 or 1976?

George Allen Lexington, KY

At 02:42 PM 4/21/2005, kohl57@starpower.net wrote:
>Original Message:
>-----------------
>From: George Allen jgallen@lexairinc.com
>Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:30:23 -0400
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: RE: [CR]Special Build Raleigh dating
>
>
>"I have a Team Pro with serial number SB 262 that has a black head tube so
>I
>assume it is a 1975. I also have a 753 Team Pro with serial number SB 2215
>which I would guess is a 1976/1977 although I truly have no idea. Any ideas
>on the date on that one Peter? It has cut-outs on the lugs unlike my two
>other Team Pros. I'd be happy to send you some images off-list if you'd
>like. Dave Marsh at CarltonCycles worked there during this period. He might
>be able to provide general dating based upon serial numbers. I have
>e-mailed him out of the blue with Raleigh questions in the past. He
>provided some valuable insights and was nothing but incredibly friendly and
>helpful to a total stranger.
>
>George Allen"
>
>Indeed, Dave is the one who dated and identified my own '74/'75 Team Pro
>and did so after requesting about 10 really detailed pix of the frame. So
>he knows!
>
>Does SB 2215 have braze ons under the top tube for the rear brake cabling??
>This is a good way to date it as I think it was 1977 that they went to the
>braze-ons. 1975 (first year for 753 frames with the team) and 1976 they had
>the Campagnolo clips. I'd have to check pix again in "The TI Raleigh Story"
>but I am pretty sure there was a change 76/77.
>
>Peter Kohler
>Washington DC USA
>
>
>
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