[CR][Fwd: Czech this out & Paris, Allin]

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From: <speedaneze@tesco.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:02:36 +0000
Subject: [CR][Fwd: Czech this out & Paris, Allin]


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> From: <speedaneze@tesco.net>
> Date: 2005/06/07 Tue PM 09:56:59 GMT
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Czech this out & Paris, Allin
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> Another rarity on ebay please forgive the pun. Czech Favorit derailleur never new there was such a thing must be the only one left have never red about them. More political jokes!
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6537961122&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESC%3AIT&rd=1
> Re; Paris/Rensch this company produced frames in either welded form (lugless or with lugs) or conventionally brazed with traditional lugs. Paris/Rensch always used the term welded with lugs. Bi-laminated is Claud Butler's terminology.
> Prior to the Second World War the name Rensch was more or less exclusively used, there were some models built under the Paris name but not many. After the war the Paris name came to the forefront possibly because Rensch had Germanic connotations. The area the firm was located in suffered in the Blitz and had a high proportion of Jewish residents. The name Paris was as you would say nowadays politically correct.
> Any frame produced after the Second World War and bearing the name Rensch was either made by Harry himself or by the foreman builder. This I was told by Jack Jones and Tom Board both ex Rensch employees. I have also heard someone else say that Dusty Miller the foreman builder told him the same.
> The apprentices and new builders always started on the "Paris Type Homme" or Paris Professional models.
> This situation might have changed when Harry (Spanner) Rensch left the shop for his wife to run. I think Bill Harlow went there after Harry left. Perhaps someone can verify this?
> If you can get your hands on an old Cycling or Paris/Rensch brochure you will see that the models are duplicated e.g. Paris or Rensch, welded or brazed. Typical example Paris Tour de France welded with lugs (bilaminated as Claud would say) £14.18.6 or fully brazed with lugs £14.18.6. This same model was also made as a Rensch but normally only available in the brazed lug form £15.15.0. Perhaps the higher price due to the foreman or Harry's greater wages. The Rensch was always the more exspensive and exclusive higher end frame. The exception being the Paris Galibier at £16.18.6 as opposed to the Rensch Champion du Monde at £16.16.0.
> Mr.Norris Lockley is correct in his assertions. All the Rensch tandems I have ever seen in the flesh or in the catalogues have had the twin lateral stays whereas the Paris tandems were all conventionally tubed as per the ebay item. Paris tandems like this were very popular on the track and in time trials. The welded lug on the ebay tandem is the same as the early solo Tour de France pattern.
> Lastly I always thought that was "Ching" Allin and not Chick and how about Dave Bonner on his Allin S.B.Special? Surely that model has got to be fancy lugged?
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> Oil up! Frank Ellingford London UK
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Oil up! Frank Ellingford London UK