Re: [CR]Any early 1950's La Quelda owners out there?

(Example: Framebuilders:Rene Herse)

From: "Michael Gould" <resilion@fastmail.fm>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
References: <20050627163011.6878.qmail@web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Any early 1950's La Quelda owners out there?
In-Reply-To: <20050627163011.6878.qmail@web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:18:57 -0700


Hello Michael, Don't know if this bad news or good news. I will put money on this that this is defiately NOT A LAQUELDA. The whole thing looks wrong for a Holdsworth especially the seat stays eyes. Looks more Butlerish or Fother? a Liverpool builder who's name I have forgotten who built loads of lugless frames. If you want to please contact me off list and I will send a photo of a typical LaQuelda seat stay finish. I am no expert on these matters but I have a gut feeling this is definetly not a Holdsworth LaQuelda. Surely there must be someone on the list who is better qualified to give a definitive answer? Frank Ellingford London UK>

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:30:11 -0700 (PDT), "Michael Davies" <msdavi59@yahoo.com> said:
> I'm looking for help identifying a lightweight English
> bike. I posted pictues of this several months ago and
> the consensus seemed to be that it might be a
> Holdsworth La Quelda. Unfortunately, I can't really
> match it up with any of the online catalogs, mainly
> due to the low resolution of the pictures at those
> sites...there's just not enough detail. Also, it would
> help me if someone has knowledge of Holdsworth's
> serial numbers from the early 1950....mine is
> 27951...does this sound like a LaQuelda number?
>
> I recently built this bike up with some run of the
> mill components I had lying around and am quite
> stunned by how light it is..just shy of 20lbs, and
> that with crappy components on it. It's a very nice
> ride, and I'd like to have it restored, but can't
> really proceed until I know what it is.
>
> Below are some links to pictures..
>
> Thanks -Michael Davies
> St Louis
>
> http://home.att.net/~michael.s.davies/Frame1.jpg
> This is a left side view of the disassembled frame and
> fork.
>
> http://home.att.net/~michael.s.davies/Frame2.jpg
> This is a rear view of the disassembled frame and
> fork.
>
> http://home.att.net/~michael.s.davies/Frame3.jpg
> This is a right side view of the disassembled frame
> and fork.
>
> http://home.att.net/~michael.s.davies/Rear_dropout.jpg
> This is a view of the Chater Lea rear dropouts.
> Dropout spacing is 115mm
>
> http://home.att.net/~michael.s.davies/Bottom_bracket1.jpg
> This is a left side view of the bottom bracket shell.
> Visible is the incorrect spindle; the BB shell width
> is 63.5mm and the spindle is from a 68mm BB. Not
> visible is the interior of the BB shell….it’s fully
> enclosed, with no openings to the intersecting tubes.
>
> http://home.att.net/~michael.s.davies/Bottom_bracket2.jpg
> An underside view of the bottom bracket. The serial
> number is clearly visible.
>
> http://home.att.net/~michael.s.davies/Fork_rear.jpg
> A view of the backside of the front fork. Again, the
> serial number can be seen.
>
> http://home.att.net/~michael.s.davies/Fork_tip.jpg
> A view of the front fork dropouts. Dropout spacing is
> 90mm
>
> http://home.att.net/~michael.s.davies/Seatpost.jpg
> A view of the underside of the intersection of the top
> tube, seat tube and seatstays.
>
> http://home.att.net/~michael.s.davies/Frame_forward.jpg
> A close-up view of the front part of the frame
>
> http://home.att.net/~michael.s.davies/Frame_rear.jpg
> A close-up view of the rear of the frame.
>
>
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Frank Ellingford resilion@fastmail.fm