RE: [CR]Torelli/Chairman Bill on French vs Italian, stirring that pot

Example: Framebuilders:Cecil Behringer
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Fred Rafael Rednor" <>
Subject: RE: [CR]Torelli/Chairman Bill on French vs Italian, stirring that pot
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Not only that, some of the comments are outrightly incorrect. Chainrings don't rub against the derailleur because the crank's spider section is flexible. They rub because the frame flexes.
   If this occured more frequently on PX-10s, it ws because they used relatively thinner walled tubing that the Dutch "tanks". Of course, those Peugeots seemed to handle Paris-Roubaix with no more damage than the Raleighs. (Of course, I can't discount an assertion that heavier frames were built for that race.)
      Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)

--- "" wrote:

> Yes, Tom.. a great website. And some wonderful digs at

\r?\n> Peugeots PX-10s. The bike everyone hates 'cause the

\r?\n> average 20-year-old aspiring racer could own

\r?\n> one and win with. Even Eddy who rode one to several

\r?\n> victories before, as we

\r?\n> all know, it was morphed into a Masi or something with

\r?\n> Peugeot paint and,

\r?\n> one presumes, crappy lugwork in case someone was nosing

\r?\n> around.


\r?\n> But take a look at the photos in this site... seems like more

\r?\n> than few pix

\r?\n> of PX-10s, no doubt "riding and handling like a dog" crossing

\r?\n> the finish

\r?\n> line with the Italians drafting behind in second or worse

\r?\n> place.


\r?\n> >From my estimation, the basic stock PX-10 competed in the

\r?\n> Tour de France

\r?\n> from 1965 to 1977. Pretty good innings for a "dog".


\r?\n> Looking forward to riding my dog this afternoon in fact...


\r?\n> Peter Kohler

\r?\n> Washington DC USA