RE: [CR]Simplex derailleur hanger

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Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:27:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: "simon bird" <simonandonandon@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [CR]Simplex derailleur hanger
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <9327C3B25BD3C34A8DBC26145D88A90701A26C@hippy.home.here>


- I wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for an older style braze on rear
> hanger for an
> > early 1950s Simplex derailleur. If any one has an
> old
> > drop-out with one attached, a hacked off one lying
> in a
> > drawer or even an unused one (!) I would be
> interested in
> > purchasing it.
> > This is to help in the restoration of a 1952
> Gillott frame.

Mark Bulgier wrote:
> I think this may be the dropout:
> http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Simplex/Simplex_R_Dropout_oldstyle.jpg
>
> Note how the derailleur hanger doesn't hang straight
> down in the plane
> of the dropout, it is offset to the right by a
> centimeter or more. Any
> chance your brazed-on, then hacked-off hanger looked
> like that?
>
> Not sure what year that dropout was made, but I've
> been told early 50s.
> Sorry, it's not for sale.
>

Yes that looks like the one, thank you. Does anyone know - was just the hanger available as a braze on for other brands of drop out? Or would a simplex drop-out have been canibalised for its hanger? The Agratti ends are nice, forged on both sides, which I think is unusual.

Simon Bird.
London, England.