Re: [CR]Copyright in This Digital Era

(Example: Racing:Jacques Boyer)

Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:56:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Ted E. Baer" <wickedsky@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Copyright in This Digital Era
To: Sheldon Brown <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>, john barron- velostuf <jb@velostuf.com>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <p06230931bf2a9c517344@[10.0.1.16]>


Photos taken by individuals, whether for eBay sales or other uses, however, do remain the property of their creator, and should not be reproduced without permission.

Sheldon "Gray Areas" Brown Newtonville, Massachusetts

Thank you Sheldon; I could not have said it better.

Kind Regards, Ted E. Baer "ONE of the TWO GUYS who asked to have his photos removed." Palo Alto, CA


--- Sheldon Brown wrote:


> >Cousin Dale wrote:
> >
> >>Mark, thanks a million for your generosity and
> time taken to supply
> >>these resources to all of us FOR FREE and at no
> benefit to yourself!!
> >
> >>Maybe it would be a good idea to give
> acknowledgement to the sources
> >>whenever possible, but images on the web
> especially those on eBay
> >>auctions, are acknowledged by all reasonable folk
> to be in common play
> >>and unless personal profit is being made from
> their "theft", it is
> >>totally kosher...
>
> John Barron responded:
>
> >Actually Dale, just because an image is on the Web,
> doesn't mean
> >that it's OK to download it, post it elsewhere,
> share it, etc. In
> >the same way that hardcopy/printed works are
> protected, so are those
> >works when digitized. It's not a matter of who is
> reasonable... I
> >have been working indirectly with copyright issues
> for the last 17
> >years, and while they remain gray and generally
> confusing, I can
> >with certainty that everyone should be thoughtful
> and maybe careful
> >about how they use images acquired from the Web. I
> won't go into the
> >Fair Use statutes here, but images on the Web are
> *not* necessarily
> >public domain.
> >
> >Finally, it isn't just a matter of whether the
> poster is in it for
> >profit, but whether the owner of the image is in it
> for profit. My
> >Velostuf business is NOT a money maker. I do it for
> fun, and to
> >share the knowledge. If I *were* in it to earn my
> living, I would be
> >aggravated if someone posted my images without
> permission and
> >offered them for free to all takers.
> >
> >There are professional photographers on this list
> who may be able to
> >shed some light on the issue of images being shared
> on the internet.
>
> My feeling is that manufacturers' printed
> advertising materials,
> catalogues, brochures and the like are generally OK
> within the
> spirit, if not the letter of the law. While they're
> current, they
> constitute free advertising for the originator, and
> once they're
> obsolete, I can't imagine that any manufacturer
> would mind them being
> reproduced for free distribution to the general
> public.
>
> It is in this spirit that I reproduce such materials
> on my Websites.
>
> Photos taken by individuals, whether for eBay sales
> or other uses,
> however, do remain the property of their creator,
> and should not be
> reproduced without permission.
>
> Sheldon "Gray Areas" Brown
> Newtonville, Massachusetts
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