Re:Re: [CR] 62X56cm Shogun f/f F/S, and Arabesque grouppo.

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From: "dddd" <>
To: "Classic Rendezvous" <>
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Subject: Re:Re: [CR] 62X56cm Shogun f/f F/S, and Arabesque grouppo.
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:33:50 -0700

Sorry 'bout that, the Shogun is a 1979 model, pics available.

It was good enuf to have come with D-A hdst, 600 "Arabesque" grouppo and Sunshine Pro-Am hubs. It's lavender metallic and the only braze-ons are above-bb cable guides, chainstay hsg stop and downtube bottle mounts. Shimano dropouts, head badge, no chrome.

Again, $100 and $40 for shipping. Deliverable for $10 to Sac'to or bay areas. Free pickup in Auburn. The Arabesque grouppo is $75 plus $10 ship. Might be perfect for a 6-footer with 33 inch inseam.

David Snyder
Auburn, CA usa

----- Original Message -----
From: dddd
To: Classic Rendezvous <>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Knee troubles, ...and 62X56cm Shogun f/f F/S

> Riding vintage bikes can sometimes be hard on my knees because of the need
> to squat down to shift while powering up a hill. It can take it's toll on
> long rides, and affects me more on smaller frames, too-short stems or
> too-low bars, often the result of trying to retain traditional parts like
> Cinelli bars and stem. I do race-training rides in hilly terrain on my
> original old bikes and do sometimes suffer pains that my Viscount doesn't
> deliver, it being outfitted with OT STI shifters. It's also got a bigger,
> taller frame than most of my other vintage rides. I feel that the shifters
> on this bike help offset the disadvantages of a heavier bike with it's
> front wheel too-far-foreward for best drafting. It's a bummer that 59X56cm
> frames are so scarce. I've got a nice 62X56cm (C-C) Shogun road frame
> here for sale, a cm or two too tall for me, for just $100 if anyone wants
> one. It was worth the try as I learned something here about fit.
> I feel I might be tempting fate here with off-topic blather, but keeping
> the knees comfy is definitely prerequisite to even a mild vintage ride,
> imo. Apology in advance if I'm outta line!
> The anti-inflammatories work well with tendonitis conditions because
> inflammation is a common response to stress. Inflammatory response can
> also be blunted, and more safely in a long-term way, with calorie
> restriction and good diet. I've suffered with knee tendonitis in the
> past, and I'm not going back if I can help it. I woke up with sharp neck
> pain today, skipped breakfast and noticed the pain was gone by noon!
> Sounds strange, but it works. I've been through a variety of physical
> recoveries (knees, tennis elbow and neck) and have tested the theory many
> times. FWIW, arthritis is also an inflammatory condition much affected by
> diet. It has more to do with changes in blood chemistry than differences
> in the weight we carry.
> I hope this is useful, but likely won't apply to non-inflammatory
> ailments. I started using this approach after reading The Zone around
> 1994.
> I often suffer more aches and pains with the Fall changes in weather, as
> my riding vs. eating battle loses some ground. The CX season is my
> savior, but only goes through November around here.
> David Snyder
> Auburn, CA USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Sanders" <>
> Subject: [CR]Knee troubles
>> Neill,
>> First let me advise a little rest. Too much riding is too much
>> riding...even youthful Pros suffer when they over train. Next, an old
>> timer once told me to move the saddle in the direction of the
>> pain...could
>> your saddle be a touch too far back and it would not show up in a more
>> moderate riding regimen?
>> Some Ibuprofen might be called for here, too. Aspirin might also have
>> the
>> benefit of reducing swelling.
>> Tom Sanders
>> Lansing, Mi