Re: [CR]Fw: term of the week

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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:26:19 -0400
From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Fw: term of the week
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I thought that the chop was down track and the hook up track.

This I vaguely recall from some discussion at the Brennan's shop a long time ago (and they were talking about the 1920's). They also mentioned that in Newark, these fouls were often not settled by the refs, but under the stands. I suppose this meant that Reggie McNamara did what he pleased! Don't get me wrong, I have no idea of his riding style, but as big and tough as he was I doubt if any one attemped the under the stands dispute resolution technique.

Joe Bender-Zanoni Great Notch, NJ

ternst wrote:
>Thanks Gene and James for joining in.
>I remember Gene from Detroit racing going all the way back into the
>early '50's.
>Gene's answers are somewhat briefer, James are a more anecdote related
>but both are good and close to what I learned.
>I'll fill in some gaps, and give my take this coming weekend. Between
>us, I trust those of you on the list who aren't familiar with these
>expressions will get a good all round feeling for the techniques.
>Ted Ernst
>Palos Verdes Estates, CA
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> Ted: It's been a long time since I got too do any of the things, but
>if my memory serves me correctly; A hook took place when you were side
>by side and you bumped or elbowed your competition out of the way; Chop
>was to come down in front of your competition abruptly when there was
>not really enough room to do so; Go on top. On a banked track the bottom
>has a sprinters lane below the red line. If you are in this lane at the
>beginning of a sprint you own it, everyone else must go must go on top,
>or over the top. Hole; Some times they were not there and you just had
>to make them. The sprint has started, you are behind two side by side
>riders that you feel you can beat, there is not enough time or the
>opportunity to go around so you go between them creating a hole. Hooks
>and chops could get you disqualified if the officials thought you were a
>little too aggressive. Making a hole was usually all right. Experienced
>riders may not let a hole open up but lesser riders would move apart as
>you came through giving you a clear path to the finish line. Gene Diggs,
>Rochester Hills, Michigan