Re: [CR]Glorified Pipefitting? Lugs or Fillet?

(Example: Framebuilders:Chris Pauley)

Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:15:42 -0700
Subject: Re: [CR]Glorified Pipefitting? Lugs or Fillet?
From: "Brandon Ives" <>
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That's just gloppy chunks of brass compared to the Bill Philbrook I used to keep in my living room. Don't get me wrong Sam's good builder, but the seller is laying down the hype a little too heavy. Of course today was the starting day of the hypefest known as Interbike, so what do you expect.

As far as the history of fillet brazing it's goes back to the beginning of bikes. I have a safety frame from before 1910 that's all fillet. Also arc welding is not fillet brazing. Arc welding is like tig and mig welding using and electrical arc to melt the parent metal and the filler material is in general similar to the parent material. Fillet brazing is a method of adding a second metal dissimilar to the parent material as a joining material and not melting the parent metal. Fillet brazing could be done in theory with an arc welder, but it's usually done with a gas flame of some kind. best, Brandon"monkeyman"Ives Vancouver, B.C.

On Monday, Sep 26, 2005, at 17:39 US/Pacific, wrote:
> Ok, I am not sure if Sam Cotten would be considered a KoF but check
> out ebay item 7185592167 and read the description. To
> think that my Sachs is made out of wasing maching bits is
> depressing;-) Didn't Graeme Obree ride a bike he put together out of
> washing machine parts to an hour record?
> On a classical note. When and who did the first fillet brazing. I have
> a Holdsworth La Quelda 1948 was arc welded (Fillet). I am not sure
> when they first started doing that. Late 30's I think based on some
> advertisements I have seen.