Re: [CR] Frame Flex Testing

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Cinelli)

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Subject: Re: [CR] Frame Flex Testing
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 15:02:56 +0000

Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:15:07 -0400 From: Marcus Coles <> To: Subject: Re: [CR]Frame Flex Testing

At 6' and 200lbs with a non-typical cyclist physique I find significant lateral frame flex at the bottom bracket unacceptable, by significant I'm talking auto shifting and the big ring rattling both sides of the front derailleur cage. While this may not consume power and cause the bottom bracket shell to glow red it is quite an annoyance. <snip> That is why you need tubing gauge to be rider-appropriate (since the diameters didn't vary in the "old days"). If you check the tubing manufacturers' specifications, there was frequently a recommended max. rider weight associated with each type of tubing (often widely ignored, unfortunately). For Columbus SL, it is 150 pounds. For SP, it is 200 pounds. For KL, it's 125! You are at the upper limit for SP.... <snip>

As for frame flex improving the ride, now IMHO that's snake oil. A bike frame is pretty much a truss vertically and deflection is minimal at best. Tires, inflation pressure, wheelbase, headtube angle, where you sit and where your hands are, make the difference for ride feel. I'd bet that the Raleigh 3 speed used as an example of stiffness earlier seems "dead" because of the sixty something degree frame angles, the four foot wheelbase and the 35+lb weight.


Uh, a frame's vertical compliance doesn't matter in your opinion? Ever ride of of them early Cannondale things? They will pound you into a pulp, IMO, over long distances. Way too stiff vertically. Greg Parker Dexter, Michigan (where vintage steel is still real, but one size doesn't fit all). :-)