[CR]Tandem shipment


Example: Production Builders:Tonard

From: "ajwood6@comcast.net" <ajwood6@comcast.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:13:31 -0400
Subject: [CR]Tandem shipment

I read somewhere that DHL are good at packing/shipping tandems. Alternatively, a local bike shop might help.

Arthur Wood

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Today's Topics:

1. FS: MAFAC Cantis for Cyclo-Cross or Tandem (Harvey M Sachs) 2. Re-E'Roica (Geoff Duke) 3. needed 4. Tandem Shipping Help (Joe Bender-Zanoni) 5. Re-E'Roica (Geoff Duke) 6. Another Newbie Question (Scot Osterweil) 7. Zeus patches shipping out (Wspokes) 8. Cirque du Cyclisme basics are UP on the web site.... 9. Velo Rendezvous - Restoration Presentation (Brett Horton) 10. Re: Cirque du Cyclisme basics are UP on the web site.... (Chuck Schmidt) 11. GHISALLO and L'EROICA photos (Bob Freitas) 12. Re: Another newbie question (Sergio SERVADIO) 13. RE: Another newbie question (neil foddering) 14. Re: Re-E'Roica (Edward Albert) 15. Cycling Hall of Fame (Aldo Ross) 16. Re: Italy and the Eroica last Part ( and I am sure some of you =09are glad of it) (Edward Albert) 17. ReL (CR)Re-Eroica (Edward Albert) 18. Finding cleats (Vicente Saraco)

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:28:55 -0400 From: Harvey M Sachs <sachshm@cox.net> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]FS: MAFAC Cantis for Cyclo-Cross or Tandem Message-ID: <434DB857.2070801@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: hsachs@alumni.rice.edu Message: 1

Brian Frank's recent post seeking Mafac Canti's stimulated me to check the stash. Lo, I found an orphan pair (one wheel's worth) of NOS Mafac

Cantilevers, with NOS pads. Even better, these are the super-rare CycloCross and tandem oversized ones. $25 shipped in North Am. $30 wi th three (duh?) barely used Shimano super oversized (5.3 mm long pads) pa ds & holders.

Will draw from requests received within 24 hr. after digest posting. thanks harvey sachs mcLean va. ------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:57:36 +1000 From: Geoff Duke <G.Duke@civenv.unimelb.edu.au> To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Cc: ealbert@ballatlantic.net Subject: [CR]Re-E'Roica Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20051013114715.009d8400@mailhost.civenv.unimelb. edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2

Edward Thanks so much for your description of this event.I was totally unaware of its existence. This definitely sounds like something I want to put on m y list of things to do. You say they check your bike for pre 1980 originality and look at brake

cables and pedals.Do they actually check that the frame was constructed

during this time frame ? Do the wheels matter ? The number of cogs on the back ? The seat etc.? Just wondering Geoff Duke a long way from Italy in Melbourne Australia

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:22:33 EDT From: Rnitro1969@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Cc: Rnitro1969@aol.com Subject: [CR]needed Message-ID: <102.6b7706d8.307f1ee9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3

greetings

looking for ballilla side pull brake lever hoods. these are not the same as center pulls. smaller and clamp has bolt on outer end.

dont know if this request is out of time line.if so sorry dale. o need a 650c rim or pair of wheels.buy or trade. for time trial frame. also looking to trade or buy older ambrosio stems trade shorter for longer.

thanks robbie fellows lakewood,ca.

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:27:02 -0400 From: Joe Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Tandem Shipping Help Message-ID: <434DC5F6.9010105@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <434DB857.2070801@cox.net> References: <434DB857.2070801@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 4

I stuck my nose into a tandem on Ebay and ended up winning it. Can anyone suggest the best method of shipment and a bike shop near Champaign, Illinois that might be of help.

Joe Bender-Zanoni Great Notch, NJ ------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:44:49 +1000 From: Geoff Duke <G.Duke@civenv.unimelb.edu.au> To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Cc: ealbert@bellatlantic.net Subject: [CR]Re-E'Roica Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20051013124438.009d7650@mailhost.civenv.unimelb. edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5

Edward Thanks so much for your description of this event.I was totally unaware of its existence. This definitely sounds like something I want to put on m y list of things to do. You say they check your bike for pre 1980 originality and look at brake

cables and pedals.Do they actually check that the frame was constructed

during this time frame ? Do the wheels matter ? The number of cogs on the back ? The seat etc.? Just wondering Geoff Duke a long way from Italy in Melbourne Australia

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:49:02 -0400 From: Scot Osterweil <scot.osterweil@verizon.net> To: Classic Bike List <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Another Newbie Question Message-ID: <11507119526b538186310fe2fd83b04e@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6

Steve

If you don't mind using a modern shoe, I just bought a pair of Specialized Taho atb's (I think that 's the model name). Their soles

are as stiff as my old classic leather bike shoes, and they have deep treads that work as well as cleats on my clip-and-strap pedals. They

also have knockouts if you ever want to add modern style cleats and clipless pedals. They cost $70.

Hope that helps, Scot Osterweil Brookline, MA

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:24:48 -0400 From: "Wspokes" <wspokes@penn.com> To: "Cr List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Zeus patches shipping out Message-ID: <000a01c5cfae$0d0508a0$09905b40@Walt> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 7

The zeus patches are being mailed out starting tomorrow for all those that pre-ordered. I want to thank those that pre-ordered and pre-paid.

For all those who were waiting, I have them finished and the price will

remain at $5 per patch for awhile. paypal accepted at wspokes@penn.com

or send payment to me at walter skrzypek 665 Buskirk Drive Falls Creek, Pa, 15840

These were once again made in limited quantities...only 50 total. Thanks again, email offlist if interested.

Walter Skrzypek Falls Creek, Pa, http://www.fixedgearhooligans.com

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:30:00 EDT From: OROBOYZ@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Cirque du Cyclisme basics are UP on the web site.... Message-ID: <9a.2f5b7d10.307f3cc8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8

See here:

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Cirque.htm

Dale Brown Greensboro, NC USA ------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:00:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Brett Horton <bretthorton@thehortoncollection.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Velo Rendezvous - Restoration Presentation Message-ID: <20051013050003.40668.qmail@web33504.mail.mud.yahoo. com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Reply-To: bretthorton@thehortoncollection.com Message: 9

Three days after the end of Velo Rendezvous, I am still blissfully reminiscing about the event. I truly enjoyed the opportunity to spend a few days in the company of my fellow cycling passionate whack jobs.

I found the symposium presentations to be well prepared and informative.

Personally, my motivating reason for attending this year was to listen to Jay and Charles' presentation about restoration. I am beginning to conclude that, at least in the U.S., ours is the first generation to attempt to meaningfully address the issues inherent to the restoration of vintage lightweight racing bikes. While the field of collectible automobiles has clearly addressed restoration parameters for a number of years, this is relatively virgin territory for lightweight racing bikes. I was intrigued by Charles Andrews' narrative as to his own evolution with regard to restoration. He spoke of when he first began restoring bikes, the goal seemed to be, more often than not, one of taking a worn bike back to its original showroom floor condition. He then opined how, 10+ years lat er, he can now see the charm and beauty of a bike with "patina" and leave it a s is.

The wonderful thing about the whole concept of restoration is that at the end of the day, it's your bike; do with it what you want. The one caveat I would interject is that once you make the decision to restore (particularl y a repaint), you can't turn back the hands. I think that's why I am so hesitant to touch an otherwise functioning bike. With something like vintage poster restoration, you can normally undue all the restoration wit h relative ease. The consequences are very different when you strip the original finish off your 1960 Bianchi to opt for fresh paint.

To Chuck, thanks again for the effort you put in. Velo Rendezvous is tru ly a labor of love.

Brett Horton San Francisco, California

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:28:20 -0800 From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> To: OROBOYZ@aol.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Cirque du Cyclisme basics are UP on the web site... . Message-ID: <434DFE53.31456AF@earthlink.net> References: <9a.2f5b7d10.307f3cc8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net Message: 10

OROBOYZ@aol.com wrote:
>
> See here:
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Cirque.htm
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, NC USA

Le Cirque du Cyclisme A UNIQUE BIKE RALLY!

Boy... you're not kidding about unique!

FRIDAY JUNE 9th Arrive & Unwind Day SATURDAY JUNE 10th The Classic Rendezvous Day SUNDAY MAY 1st The Cirque du Cyclisme!

Dusting off my Way Back Machine...

Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, CA USA

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:52:15 -0700 From: Bob Freitas <freitas1@pacbell.net> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]GHISALLO and L'EROICA photos Message-ID: <434DF60F.7010702@pacbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 11

I uploaded more photos this PM I promise to give some impressions of all tomorrow BOB FREITAS MILL VALLEY,CA http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/ITALY-2005

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 06:09:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Sergio SERVADIO <servadio@mail.df.unipi.it> To: Steve Leitgen <sleitgen@charter.net> Cc: "Classicrendezvous@Bikelist.Org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR]Another newbie question Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1051013060318.2304B-100000@servadio. df.unipi.it> In-Reply-To: <6c49e24059432ceb12b5d357d12bfe15@charter.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 12

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Steve Leitgen wrote:
> What do I do for shoes? (More importantly a size 45-46 wide)

As desperate as I was, some seven years ago I made my own. I later found out that the (once _very_ famous indeed) factory 'Colombini', in Lucca, occasionally still makes all leather custom shoes.

So, I did get an additional pair from them.

Besides, someone near here after closing down his big business with bikes still has a good number of shoes in stock to sell.

Sergio 'Here' is in Pisa down below the Leaning Tower, Toscana, Italia

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 07:36:43 +0000 From: "neil foddering" <neilfoddering@hotmail.com> To: sleitgen@charter.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: RE: [CR]Another newbie question Message-ID: <BAY101-F3801698FA007C0BFF43133BF7A0@phx.gbl> In-Reply-To: <6c49e24059432ceb12b5d357d12bfe15@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 13

Reynolds in England will make yopu a pair of traditional leather cycling

shoes, with leather soles (but with rubber top heel and sole for grip/wear/ease of repair). IMO, the quality is excellent, and they're g ood value for money, around USD135-140 (you'd need to check), especially since

they're made to order. I bought two pairs earlier this year, one black,

and one brown (for my 1930's machines). Although they don't list brown, the y were willing to make a pair for me, and charge me the same as for their

normal black ones. They liked them so much, that they told me they're

thinking of listing them!

They're basically a touring shoe, so the soles are thicker and more robust

than that of a racing shoe.

If you're interested, the address is:

5 Selbourne Avenue Bletchley Milton Keynes Buckinghamshire MK3 5BX

Their phone number is 01908 647170 (Idon't know the UK code from the USA).

They're good people to deal with.

Neil Foddering Weymouth England


>From: Steve Leitgen <sleitgen@charter.net>
>To: "Classicrendezvous@Bikelist.Org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: [CR]Another newbie question
>Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:47:17 -0500
>
>First I want to thank all who answered my freewheel question. I now hav e
>some options.
>
>So now I have my (hypothetical) steed back on the road. I've scavenged the
>basement and bought a freewheel. Clipless pedals started in the mid to late
>80s. toe clips are what goes on my bike.
>
>What do I do for shoes? (More importantly a size 45-46 wide) It would b e a
>shame to ride a hot 70's racing machine tubulars and all with running
>shoes. Does anyone carry old style riding shoes?
>
>
>Steve Leitgen
>La Crosse, WI

To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Finding cleats Message-ID: <20051013124210.76136.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo. com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 18

Hey Steve, I've had good success finding cleats on e-bay. Good searches are Vittoria and Duegi, with the Duegis running a little larger. I wear an American 12 and find the Vittorias in 45, 46 ,& 47s comfortable, depending on socks and lining (47s have shearling for winter). The Duegis are 45 and VERY stiff. Be patient and persistent, they're out there. Vicente Saraco in rainy Brooklyn, N.Y. ------------------------------