Re: [CR]Snipe service no Difference! - and Masi update


Example: Component Manufacturers

Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:08:53 -0400
From: Phil Sieg <triodelover@comcast.net>
To: Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Snipe service no Difference! - and Masi update
References: <20051027174644.6297.qmail@web60421.mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20051027174644.6297.qmail@web60421.mail.yahoo.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Since sniping on eBay is already an off-topic topic in which the List Owner has participated <grin>, I suppose I can't get in *too* much trouble for asking the cognoscenti what their favorite or best-bang-for-the-buck sniping software is. So what is it? Reply off-list to keep me with at least one foot out of the dog house.

Phil Sieg Knoxville, tennessee

Raymond Dobbins wrote:
>doug beat me to it. i was just about to post saying that i use a
>sniping service for bidding on a lot of items that i want but don't
>need. in fact, the set and forget aspect of using a sniping service
>has me bidding a lot more than before i used the service, so although
>the service may or may not disccourage higher sale prices, it certainly
>forsters more bids on more items.
>
>when it comes to items i really, really, but really want, i use a
>combination of regular bidding and sniping service. first i place a
>regular bid, sort of like "planting my flag" - the illusion there being
>that some people will not bid against me :). then i schedule a snipe
>at the highest price i'm willing to pay, which also ensures that i
>don't miss my chance to bid even if another friggin hurricane comes
>through and knocks out my power and internet connection for a few days,
>or i just blow the deadline. but like i said, if it's an item i really
>want, i monitor the auction, and if my snipe amount is outbid, i can
>raise it, and i have many times. in those cases, it's not "set &
>forget," it's more like "set & reset."
>
>therefore i would say that in general, at least for me, sniping does
>not discourage higher auction prices. it certainly hasn't prevented me
>from paying more than i probably should have on a couple of occasions,
>and i have actually spent more money on ebay than before i used the
>sniping service, since i'm placing more "set & forget" bids.
>
>on the masi subject, thanks to all who have written to me about my
>masi. several people have specifically indicated that they like the
>modified brake levers, and want to know more about how they were
>modified. so i will take some photos of the guts of the levers and
>create a separate album for them in a few days. the only person who
>didn't like them is nick zatezalo, who doesn't feel they deserve the
>sweet world-logo gum hoods on them :) fortunately, in case he is
>right, i have the perfect pair of really toasted hoods for them - which
>nick sent me as joke not long ago! how did he know?
>
>thanks again,
>
>ray dobbins
>miami florida
>
>--- Doug Van Cleve <dvancleve@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Howdy folks.
>>
>>I use a low tech free snipe a lot of the time on things that I would
>>like t
>>o
>>have, but don't really need. I like it not so much for the last 10-20
>>secon
>>d
>>bid, but because it is automatic and I can't forget to bid. I have
>>had
>>enough auctions where I got side tracked, forgot when it ended and
>>then saw
>>a low winning bid that most of the time I snipe now to prevent that.
>>
>>Doug Van Cleve
>>Chandler, AZ
>>
>>
>>On 10/27/05, oroboyz@aol.com <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sniping does indeed limit maximum selling price in many cases..
>>>
>>>In the case of sniping, the potential buyer enters the maxiumum
>>>
>>>
>>price
>>
>>
>>>they are willing to bid, then sits back and lets the electronics
>>>
>>>
>>take
>>
>>
>>>over.
>>>Once the dust has settled and the item is sold to the highest
>>>
>>>
>>bidder, a
>>
>>
>>>quick query to the loser is often (almost always!) that they in
>>>
>>>
>>fact
>>
>>
>>>would have paid more, especially now that they have lost that
>>>
>>>
>>auction.
>>
>>
>>>Some dispassionate bidders may say no, but most would have squeezed
>>>
>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>piggie bank a little harder to take the prize. Conventional
>>>
>>>
>>auctions
>>
>>
>>>use this factor to drive the prics ever upward but eBay and other
>>>"timed" inline auctions eliminate the upward spiral that emotion
>>>
>>>
>>could
>>
>>
>>>play by stopping all bidding at the end of that proscribed time.
>>>
>>>
>>Hence
>>
>>
>>>the logical (and legitimate) tool called sniping was created....
>>>
>>>Some of us use a sniping tool precisely because of that, i.e. it
>>>prevents us from being stupid and impulsively bidding higher than
>>>
>>>
>>we
>>
>>
>>>really should!
>>>
>>>Dale Brown
>>>Greensboro, NC USA
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: John Thompson <JohnThompson@new.rr.com>
>>>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>>Sent: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:43:09 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: [CR]re: first gen TA - Snipe service no Difference!
>>>
>>>hersefan@comcast.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am somewhat baffled by the assumption that a sniping service
>>>>
>>>>
>>would
>>
>>
>>>>result in lower purchase prices. A sniping service actually turns
>>>>the auction into the equivelent of sealed bid auction where the
>>>>
>>>>
>>bids
>>
>>
>>>>are opened in the final moments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>It's frustrating. After losing out on more than a few items because
>>>
>>>
>>of
>>
>>
>>>last minute sniping, I reluctantly started using a sniping tool. I
>>>
>>>
>>don't
>>
>>
>>>particularly like it, but sometimes it's the only way...
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>-John Thompson (john@os2.dhs.org)
>>>Appleton WI USA