[CR]signature quotes loophole

Example: Racing:Wayne Stetina

Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:35:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Starck <josephbstarck@yahoo.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <4343D720.3040703@new.rr.com>
cc: OROBOYZ@aol.com
Subject: [CR]signature quotes loophole

Quoth Jeff Potter:
>I have an old wheel with what look like alloy spokes and nipples.
>(Old Campy sewup.)
>Several spokes are seized up. I turn the spoke wrench and it just
>acts like a spring---nipples won't budge.
>Any good way to free em up? Torch? I've squirted with Liquid Wrench so far.

If you squeeze the adjacent same-flange spokes together with one hand, while working the spoke wrench with the other, this sometimes helps by easing tension on the stuck spoke.

Sheldon "Tricks" Brown +---------------------------------------------------------+ | We are satisfied that there can be but little liberty | | on earth while men worship a tyrant in heaven. | | -- Robert Green Ingersoll | +---------------------------------------------------------+

Of the above quote, I (Joe Starck) asked:

"Is it appropriate, allowable, for posts to always be accompanied by quotes, as Sheldon Brown always does, no matter the looseness of association to the contents of the post, no matter the political/religious message? "

Jon Thompson responded:

"Such quotes are considered to be part of the signature, not the message content and thus are judged by a looser standard."

John, I think the sections I snipped from the list rules attached at the end of my post here, would make Sheldon Brown's quote inappropriate.
> And what's the difference between quoting others
> and quoting oneself, really?
> Nothing but modesty, generally.

John, One could impose off-topic contents upon the list via the so-called "signature qoutes" loophole. And so, although many of Sheldon's choice of quotes are illuminating to the topic of the post, some wryly analogous and fun, whatever is posted is posted, subject to list rules. (Below)

I could include off-topic "signature quotes," quoting others, that mirror my own beliefs, which is then no different than expressing my own beliefs, and if these beliefs are off-topic, then the practice is disingenuous, propagandistic -- a more offensive immodesty John, than your point, yes?

Joe Starck Madison, Wisconsin

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