Re: [CR]signature quotes loophole

Example: Framebuilders:Dario Pegoretti

Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 16:38:26 EDT
Subject: Re: [CR]signature quotes loophole

Joe & others:

I am pasting below all the stuff I think important to this latest thread, but let me just state, that if you have an issue like this, i.e., a question or gripe that involves an interpretation of MY rules, you should talk to me and not start a public brouhaha.

In this case, few people read the silly quotes folks attach to their signatures, and when you do, there is an assumption that these "wise sayings" are a self conscious and IMO somewhat silly attempt by that person to personalize and pontificate, a mini blog if you will, that can be easily ignored. This particular quote was intended to be offensive, so is even more boring that many, but who cares?

No more on this issue please, it's not worth the band width..


Dale Brown Greensboro, NC

In a message dated 10/5/2005 3:44:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes:

<< Sheldon "Tricks" Brown +---------------------------------------------------------+ We are satisfied that there can be but little liberty on earth while men worship a tyrant in heaven. -- Robert Green Ingersoll +---------------------------------------------------------+

Of the above quote, I (Joe Starck) asked:

"Is it appropriate, allowable, for posts to always be accompanied by quotes, as Sheldon Brown always does, no matter the looseness of association to the contents of the post, no matter the political/religious message? "

Jon Thompson responded:

"Such quotes are considered to be part of the signature, not the message content and thus are judged by a looser standard."

John, I think the sections I snipped from the list rules attached at the end of my post here, would make Sheldon Brown's quote inappropriate.

> And what's the difference between quoting others and quoting oneself, really? > Nothing but modesty, generally.

John, One could impose off-topic contents upon the list via the so-called "signature qoutes" loophole. And so, although many of Sheldon's choice of quotes are illuminating to the topic of the post, some wryly analogous and fun, whatever is posted is posted, subject to list rules. (Below)

I could include off-topic "signature quotes," quoting others, that mirror my own beliefs, which is then no different than expressing my own beliefs, and if these beliefs are off-topic, then the practice is disingenuous, propagandistic -- a more offensive immodesty John, than your point, yes?

Joe Starck Madison, Wisconsin

CR rules snippage:

"It is not a "public" entity where democratic rule apply. All invitees are required to conform to a standard of behavior.... maintaining civility.

- Before sending each message, carefully consider if it has on-topic content...

- The CR list is not intended to be a "chat list"...

- Courteous exchanges only. The list is not intended as a debate forum. Passionate disagreements may not be indulged in on-list. .

Please contact me at webmaster if you have questions.

Dale Brown,
List owner"